The Madeira colors like right...I had to guess to see what Melco threads were close but I know somewhere is a chart to convert threads from one company to another? At least now I know, and anyone else reading this...Land's End uses Madeira 40 color chart. They do supply the customer with a nicely packaged and labeled sewout...so you know the number of needle changes and colors....handy! Got the computer layout digitized-ran 2 tests and that was all I needed. Sewed out fine the first one, had to shrink it 20% to get the right size and fine tune some 'lines' but otherwise...no problem. Thanks everyone Roland =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================