This message was posted by debndukes on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/741.html#000003 12cm hoop all the way. I take the top and lay it upside down on the table with the notch on the hoop facing me. Take the cap with the buckle open in the left hand, take the 12cm ring and put it inside the cap where you want to hoop it, then push the bottom hoop onto the top hoop with the cap between them. Basically, everything is upside down but I just did 96 cap backs in about 3 hours with 2 machines and 4 hoops. Goodluck. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================