HI Ed! so, how do you you know what your getting when you order needles? For example on the melco web site all the ball point needles are listed just as that...ball point. not light ball. I have an info sheet that tells what type of backing and needles to use on different types of fabric. Almost all suggest a "light ball point needle" Let me ask you this. What needle runs best on the amaya...for the majority of the fabric that is sewn on...such as pique...fleece... denim..or cotton..75/11 ball point I am guessing? I have had designs with small lettering and tried to use a smaller needle to get the lettering look nicer (70/10 sharp) and ended up with tons of thread breaks. Would I have been better off with a 70/10 ball point or even a 65/9 ball point? Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Orantes To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: needles Yes Barbara, The Light Ball Needles don't weigh as much. Ha ha ha ha..... Just kidding. If I'm correct, thinking back to what I read on the Organ Needle website, a light ball point needle is one in which the size of the ball point is 1/10th the thickness of the blade. Of course you would have to know what the blade is. And that is the part that makes up the majority of the length of the needle. It's the part between the shank and the taper to the point. A medium ball point is 1/5th the thickness of the blade and a large ball point is 1/3rd the thickness of the blade. Ed -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Avalon Embroidery & Apparel Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:00 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] needles Hi all! I have kind of a silly question regarding needles. Is there a difference between a "light ball" and a "ball point" tip on a needle? Or is it one in the same? Barbara Avalon Embroidery