I have to sew a lot of metallic thread for a uniform reorder customer, I haven't had trimmer issues, but I always make sure that I add a little bit of material thickness maybe 2 to 3 values. This compensates for the brittle nature of met thread. And it saves the thread rollers, you don't want to sew metallic threads on the tight side, always the looser side. I have been fairly successful. I sew my metallics on flats at the same speed as the other threads. Sometimes I have to use the feature called "Settings by Color" for the met thread. Just chiming in... Cheryl Rotter Team Sports Ink 5111 Grumann Dr. Ste #1B Carson City, NV 89706 775-884-3550 -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roland R. Irish III Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:57 PM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: metallic threads We've been playing with that variegated color thread-which seems to be metallic. Did have trouble with needle breaking thread- switched to ball needle slowed speed down can't use this thread in small letters or fine detail looks terrible in large satin stitch Did a large 'dragonfly' from the Treasure chest and created a 'fill' for the wings and body-the stock Dakota design was ugly and looked more like scribbles than a dragonfly. With the wings done in variegated and the body in pink I think-it really jumped off the tote bag! Had tried a company 'name' with small thin letters in the variegated and it continually broke thread. So we use it only for larger fill and larger letters-not for columns or lines that are narrow, and no lettering that is skinny. Speed made a big difference-had to run it somewhere around 700 or so I think. Roland