This message was posted by TinaK on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/325.html#000004 Ok, will try the lettering first to see if that helps...did the double backing and the auto tension and it did help a bit. What an expensive way to learn how to do these hats...Ugh! Thanks for your help on this Roland! =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================