This message was posted by Gini on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/565.html#000003 Well, I tried a 10 needle and it looks much better but the thread shreds and breaks about 4 times per letter. I am not using backing because the hat is structured with pretty still backing in the front section. Maybe I will try adding backing next. I am using Melco Block, its .51, I have switched to Fill stitch, pull comp is 120% min width 12 min st length 4. Edge walk 30pt 7% and ziz zag 25 pt 70% =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================