This message was posted by Rod or Sharon on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/881.html#000001 Elaine, The first thing to do is check out this video clip on the amayausers.com site that Herb Acree and my wife put together some time ago. Herb shows how to stretch the sides of the cap and use the clips when trying to use the cap frames for doing the sides of caps. The use of Fast Frames or clamping systems can make this job easier too... http://amayausers.com/tips/default.asp Rod Springer Amaya Tech & Trainer =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================