This message was posted by Steve I on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/498.html#000001 Dianne, I use the fast frame on those. I use a clip (the ones that come with the cap frames) on each side and pull it taught over the frame. Steve I. Trinity Embroidery =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================