Bob :Are you suggesting that people should only join this list after they buy an Amaya ? Never suggested anything of the sort. Just seems odd someone who doesn't own one seems to post so frequently on a model specific email list. Also seems to me like you hammer the product quite a bit - but maybe that is just my own scewed perspective. : I have never said that people should not consider buying an Amaya. Are there things I personally do not like about the Amaya ..... sure there are but there are also things I do like. These however are just my personal opinions and it is up to each of us to find our own likes or dislikes on any machine we may consider buying [Amaya, Toyota, ZSK, SWF, Barudan, Tajima, etc.]. Yes, I get the personal opinions part, but I suppose I don't get how you form an opinion on an Amaya without even using the product. But that's just me - and my opinion. JOHN =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================