Bill, Some of the pre-digitized fonts do have built in underlay....Micro Block is one of them. None of the True Type fonts have any. You should be able to tell on any font, by expanding it up to where you can "see" the actual stitches. Compare one of the Micro Block fonts to one that does not have underlay......it is easy to see the difference... Rod Springer ----- Original Message ----- From: Griffin William To: Amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 6:26 AM Subject: [amayausers.com] "built-in underlay" I apologize for asking this question-I failed to printout earlier discussions and I can't seem to find it on the website. There was discussion recently about some fonts that already have built-in underlay. Would someone tell me again, please, which fonts they are? Would I have some means of knowing this from DesignShop Pro+? Bill Bill & Trish Griffin EmbroiderOn 715 First Street Elizabeth City, NC 27909 252.335.2321 www.embroideron.com