This message was posted by Linda on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/468.html#000001 I too was a PED / PR600 person and had trouble at first with the round hoops. I have used the shapes tool on the tool bar for ovals and to draw a line you use the single-line center, etc., for a satin stitched line or the walking-stitch tools for the other. Hold down the control key as you draw the line and it will be straight. On the round hoops I made a template similar to the ones for the PR600 in my DS with the origin selected and went to kinko's and printed them on plastic. Then I put hash marks on the hoops where the center should be. I asked Melco to make templates but it's not on their agenda at the moment. They recommended the All-in-One hooper. Hope this helps a little. Linda Webster www.fancyneedles.com (http://www.fancyneedles.com) fancyneedles@xxxxxxxx =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================