This message was posted by Pure Embroidery on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/635.html#000003 I've done several orders of visors for youth softball teams and have found them very easy to work with if you do a couple things. First - get the hooptech cap frames and ditch the melco frames for all of your hats. I know they're expensive, but you will thank me later. It's worth the money. Second - use a double layer of stiff tearaway backing and make sure you digitize the design at no more than 1.85 inches tall. Width is not so important. I often go seam to seam on visors. Make sure your designs sew center outward and bottom to top. The double layer of backing really helps to hold things togethor and keep the visor from wilting at the top as you sew near the edge. Visors are easy if you have the right frame and practice on a couple to get the feel. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================