This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/952.html#000001 I believe you can click on the circle and add an extra point, or find the top center point, and pull 'down' from the top to get your arc... I have designshop open right now...first job in weeks...so give me a call if you want and we can walk through it. If your lettering runs all the way around, and you want it 'right side up' on the bottom line-I do that as a second separate line, and in the arc 'specs' you can click on which way the letters read. Hope I got this right...sometimes Mac graphics and PC graphics get mixed up in my brain...LOL =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================