This message was posted by oldkush on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/273.html#000007 The Amaya does require a dongle but that is an exception in commercial embroidery machines, not the rule. For us who do not like dongles, the simple solution is not to purchase an Amaya. As far as software ... there indeed are full working versions of pirated dongle protected embroidery software available. I personally know of someone who has pirated copies of Wilcom and Pulse. Both were free and work just fine. He downloaded one from some group he belongs to and the other came from a common download site like Limewire [or something like that]. You are right, he obviously has no technical support but as far as I know, he has never needed any. I do not use pirated software and certainly would not encourage others to use it but to suggest that no one has ever been able to make dongle protected software work without the dongle ... in my experience is not true. I use Embird and for those looking for good digitizing, lettering, managing software that doesn't use a dongle, check it out at www.embird.com (http://www.embird.com) Don't let the price fool you, Embird is very good software and has more support groups than any other embroidery software. Bob =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================