This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/273.html#000006 As several 'used' amaya buyers have found out, without the dongle-you cannot run designshop or amaya OS. period. It just won't work. I have dongles for several programs on my MACs, Flexi, VeLXi, and others-and yes, I can easily get pirated versions of the programs off the internet. But without the coded dongle-they won't work-it's a scam! I haven't yet found anyone that was able to get a pirated version of a dongle protected program that worked without the dongle. Maybe someone got into the programing on a 'limited time' sample and disabled the time code-but that still isn't the full operating version. And without the dongle, you don't have the serial number/ID code-and when you try to call in for tech help...you're busted! No help without that! Unplug the dongles on your Amaya and see if you can run it... =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================