This message was posted by Rod or Sharon on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/1001.html#000007 Pam, The "minimum column width" is a form of pull comp also. It only affects those areas of the column that are less than whatever number you place in this box. If you select 10 pts, for example, then no part of the column will be allowed to be less than 10 pts wide. It does not affect any part of the column that is already wider than this 10 pt figure. This applys to any satin stitch column, regardless of whether is is in lettering or just a satin column in a design. There are two areas of pull comp, one by percentage and one by X and Y. Percentage will visually grow or expand the fat sections of the columns faster than the skinny sections. For instance, if we use the numbers 100 and 10 in regards to column width. If we take 10% of 100, you get 10. If you take 10% of 10, you get 1. In this example, the fat number(100) is growing 10 times faster than the skinny number(10). X & Y....if you add 1 point and have the lock box checked, then this form of pull comp will add 1 pt of width to EACH side of the column regardless of how wide it is to start, giving you a 2 pt increase. If you add 2 pts then you will get a total of a 4 pt increase overall. Take the number 100 and 10 again. If we added 2 pts in the X and Y, then you will add 2 pts to each side of the 100....(2)100(2).... to get a 4 pt increase in the column width or 104. If you add 2 pts to the number 10....(2)10(2)...., then you will get a total column width increase of 4 or 14. These are things that must be [played with to acheive the required results. Sometimes a combination of both % and X,Y work the best. Sometimes one or the other work best. As far as Minimum column width is concerned, 10 pts or above should be the rule of thumb used for column width. A 10 pt column is only about 40 thousands of an inch wide. That is less than 1/2 of 1/10th of an inch. Hope this helps to understand the pull comp tools a bit more.... Rod Springer Amaya Tech & Trainer =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================