This message was posted by Greenwing on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1598.html#000005 The fill just needs to hold the fabric and backing together so it can't bridge under the satin. I use anywhere between 15pts & 25pts depending how soft the gament material is. and how wide my columns are. AND NEVER USE columns more then 1/4" wide.... ever with these type of garments. I have used a copy of the area with a low density. You may also be able to set your stitch length for your underlay if so set it for 20pts and it will be a fill. give it a try. Also be sure to hoop firmly with just a bit of tension on the fabric. if the fabric is loose it will be puckered. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================