This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/3/157.html#000001 grab your uniform supply catalog (all kinds of brand names out there) and see if you can buy the uniforms with the team names and numbers already done...and decide first, is it more cost effective for you to just order them predone...secondly, use their breakdown on cost of doing the applique as a guideline to figure your own sewing. Remember, you have to figure in: applique price, shipping cost, backing material, hooping time, trim time, uniform price, and shipping for the uniforms. Forget any of these and you start losing money. Typically the uniform catalogs all have a 50% dealer discount-so your cost of uniform is doubled to get sell price, so do the same on the applique and don't forget to add the shipping (divide by number of pieces) to the applique price-then how many can you do an hour- divide into $0 or $50 per hour (shop time) and see how that price compares to predone. No sense in lowballing the order just to get it-if you can't make a profit-you won't be in business long no matter how many of these juicy orders you get. Remember, all the schools are on the direct mailing lists for most of these suppliers-yes, a lot of them WILL sell direct but not for wholesale...so they will have an idea what they could order them on their own for. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================