They were sewing out samples of what it could do at the show. It was sewing right up to the curve at the top of the cap down to about a 1/2" above the bill. If someone came up to me and told me that, I would think they were lying to me, but I really did see it with my own eyes. Is it realistic? Probably not for sewing out out someones company logo on a finished cap. I have seen some caps in the stores that do that such as NFL caps but I'm sure those are probably embroidered before the cap is assembled. From: "Caren Maffucci-TAD" <theartdepartment@xxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:09:12 -0900 Wow. As far as things are concerned regarding what my customers want that's HUGE. ... but is it realistic?? Caren- Caren Maffucci The Art Department & Sunshine Custom Promotions Anchorage, AK