The key to knit hats is the underlay. This is one of the cases where selecting the underlay on an element by element basis just doesn't work. Any design that I do for a knit hat starts with an overall underlay that is either the shape of the design or a rectangle the size of the design. This underlay is usually cris-crossed (around a 15 density) and in the same color of the hat. Sometimes I even make it a solid fill. That provides a good platform for the design to go on. You still need solvy on top but if you have the base as a fill the solvy tears off nice and you don't have to get rid of it between the letters and such. Just my 2 cents. Marty ________________________________ From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Russell Silva Sent: Wed 12/14/2005 9:02 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Melco / Amaya clamping system Hi Roland, I used a MT of 7, 1 layer of 3oz tearaway backing and 2 layers of solvy on top. Hope this helps Russell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 8:25 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: Melco / Amaya clamping system > Russell-what settings did you use on the knit hats? I haven't had a single > one come out decent-either too loopy and it pulls out when you wear the > hat-or it is so tight and puckered it looks terrible. > Any suggestions? > Thanks > Roland