This message was posted by susan on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/205.html#000005 LuAnn, A knot, lock stitch, and tie in/tie off are the same thing. No, you can not skip a lock (tie off) and then do a jump stitch. Once you trim the jump stitch there would be nothing to keep that previous element from unraveling. ] Your tie offs should not be making big knots. What "brand" of design are you using. I would try changing the tie offs to a different style and see if the big knots go away or at least get better. Susan Embroidery Station =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================