I use the hoopmaster. The only bummer is that you have to buy different fixtures for each size hoop and they aren't cheap. I bought mine at a trade show to get the trade show discount. I orginally only had the 15cm fixture but have since bought a jacket back fixture. At the time (over 2 years ago), I don't think any other devices had a way to keep the top hoop square (i.e. level) so that was a big deciding factor to me. As for durability....the hoopmaster is very well made and should last years! Then there's Aaron....he doesn't use any hooping devices! Roland.....sometimes, especially with nylon, you might want to wrap the top hoop so the fabric won't slip. Dorothy Compton Bee Embroidered _www.BeeEmbroidered.com_ (http://www.beeembroidered.com/) (916) 635-7467 Rancho Cordova, CA In a message dated 7/26/2005 8:34:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I think you'll get a mixed bag on this. We have the all in one w/ leveler pro and I love it. I like seeing how the shirt falls in an upright position to make sure things are positioned properly. I would be lost without it because I can't eyeball things to save my life. I know a bunch of folks on the list have the hoopmaster though and they love it as well. - - - - - - - - John Yaglenski Levelbest Embroidery I: www.levelbestembroidery.com P: 301.591.2481 / 888.229.1779 F: 501.631.4544 This e-mail message and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify Levelbest, immediately -- by replying to this message or by sending an e-mail to john@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Karen Money Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 11:30 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Hooping Device Can anyone make a recommendation concerning which hooping device is better...the All-in-One w/ Leveler Pro or the HoopMaster. Thank-you for your advice! ........................Karen Money