Herb, Funny you should ask about that. I gotta tell you...ever since I went to training and discovered the Stick-it spray adhesive, I don't hoop anything without it. It makes it so easy to smooth the fabric out (all types), I find I get little to no puckering in the fabric. It really has improved my stitch outs. For a long time I wasn't using it for test stitch outs-but now I even use it for that. Give that a try. LuAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: HK Acree To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:57 PM Subject: [amayausers] Hooping Okay all you folks that been doing this forever, I need some guidance. I read somewhere eons ago about pre-tensioning your hoops. The deal was you get the fabric and backing together then put them in the hoop while it is real loose. Then you tighten the screw, by hand, till it is just snug. This was supposed to give you the right tension during hooping. Sounds good to me. Problem I am having, and really always have, is when I get the fabric hooped I end up with loose fabric in the hoop. Have to gently pull the edges to get the fabric taut. I know this is wrong and read (maybe I read too much) that this is caused by the hoop being to tight and pushing the fabric into the hoop. So I loosen the hoop up, still does it, loosen it some more, not much better. Now I am at the point where I am not sure the garment will stay in the hoop. Not good. This happens primarily when working with thin woven materials.What am I doing wrong? Open to all suggestions, including forgetting about it and going fishing. Herb