Luann- I found the adhesive back paper is NOT strong enough to hold the nylon in place - as soon as we picked it up to put on the machine it would slide off. So we got those 'wedge' paper clamps-the hat hooper has small ones on it-but we got 1 1/2" wide or so from Staples-came in a plastic 'tub' and went around the fast frame with those. You have to fold the material around the frame, but ONLY fold enough for the clamp to catch. Otherwise you can sew through a fold underneath. Then, do a TRACE immediately and watch the clamps-the 'handles' can stick up and catch the needle bar. IF so, take the clamp off, and 'bend' both handles in one directions, so they stick down and clear it. Once the stitching has started and locked down the nylon to the adhesive backing, there won't be anymore sliding around and the clamps have done their job. Because you have to 'fold' the nylon around the steel frame, you may have to go up one size in the hoop. As long as you still have room for the 'nose' underneath the needle plate to move around and NOT force the 'pocket' to pop off, it will work! Roland From: "image embriodery" <imageembroidery@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [amayausers] Fast Frames for Dummies?? Backpack revisited. Okay, I attempted to hoop the flap on the back pack and I cannot fit 2 inch high letters within the area that could be hooped with the regular hoop. But I do have the fast frames and they allow a large enough area for me to get the initials on in the requested size. But I am a bit confused on the actually hooping of the item with a fast frame. Can some one give me a quick tutorial? Thanks so much! LuAnn @ Image Embroidery Because Your "Image" Matters