Thanks so much! I'll give it a try! "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Yup....before you unbutton or unzip the clothing, take a straight edge and seamstress chalk and mark a light straight line across with an X where you want the middle of the design to be. I use this to line up left chest logo with zipper of pocket on right side (Sanmar jackets I did this week). The chalk brushes right off afterwards. Every 'size' garment has pockets, buttons, etc. in different places- so you can't measure 'down' from the neck and have it look the same on different sizes. This works out fine-also gives you a straight line to hoop up with and make sure the lettering isn't crooked. Helps on the new clamp hoop- lining up jacket fronts was so easy! Roland Extreme Embroidery & Design Darlene Weber, Owner 640 6th Ave. SE Britt, Ia. 50423 Ph (641) 843-3689 Fax (641) 843-3689 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.