I've had a lot of small logo jobs that would work better with square hoop-round hoops usually are 1/2" too small for the logos-so we have to hoop up the next size which is a lot larger, wastes backing, and sometimes the buttons get in the way of larger hoop. Square would solve the problem and also make for easier lineup! Give us feedback on how the hoops work for you! Roland =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================