Depending on size of collar, you can use sticky backing in a hoop and lay the collar on it. The better alternative is to get the FastFrames dog collar or Karate Belt Hoop (About $279). I think that it is on melco's site. I would appreciate knowing if you here of a source for the collars. Kelly For Heaven's Sake Embroidery & Design 7790 Jefferson Road Brooklyn, MI 49230 517-592-4272 517-592-3450 - FAX WWW.IFHS.BIZ Sales@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of embroideryexpress@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:19 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Dog Collars ? A customer keeps urging me to do dog collars.... for anyone doing these.... what frames do you use? source for collars? Any guidance will be greatly appreciated. Shannon Embroidery Express Olney MD