I had the same thing happen with my low end HP. It didn't like to run AMAYA OS for some reason. I replaced it after 2 years with a nice networking computer (also HP) and it works awesome. Aaron Sargent The Linen Barn linen@xxxxxxxxxxx Medford, Oregon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Strike" <strikesystems@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 4:16 PM Subject: [amayausers] Re: Disposable Computers > Oh, and I wanted to add this info... I wasn't knocking HP in any way... > we had basically purchased one of their lowest end computers. I guess > you often get what you pay for... I don't know what my exact > expectations were, but they were higher than what I received from that > computer. So again, that was another reason we went with the mid level > Dell... > Peter Strike > Indianapolis, IN > > --- Peter Strike <strikesystems@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I was the one looking for a computer a while back, and we ended up > > with > > a Dell with the Pentium chip. We also went up to the mid level > > desktop > > (I can't remember the name of the line). > > > > We've had the "disposable issue" with an HP computer we had before we > > bought the Dell. And most everyone we spoke with suggested Dell > > first > > for reliability and service. > > > > But I wanted to add this post because my cousin, whose an IT geek > > showed me the consumer reports, and of the major manufacturers Dell > > was > > leading in most every category of reliability and service. So, I > > would > > be careful not to have too much better expectations with any other > > manufacturer. All manufacturers have problems with their computers, > > and I've been told more so with the lowest end options. > > > > Thanks for the info on the cleanings and the fan monitoring! > > Peter Strike > > Indianapolis, IN > > --- Linen Barn <linen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > None taken. I have owned 2 Dell's now, the laptop and a desktop I > > > have had > > > for 3 years and both have been great. Gateway on the other hand, > > > lets not > > > go there :) > > > > > > Aaron Sargent > > > The Linen Barn > > > linen@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > Medford, Oregon > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Body Cover" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:25 AM > > > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Disposable Computers > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Aaron > > > > Didn't mean that to sound like a Naa,nann,naa,naa > > > > thing. hope no offense was taken. > > > > > > > > Ron Vinyard > > > > Body Cover / Magic Stitches > > > > www.bodycoverdesign.com > > > > > > > > Grants Pass, Oregon > > > > 1-888-435-0716 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Body Cover" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:08 AM > > > > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Disposable Computers > > > > > > > > > > > > >I can build that computer for under $600 these days > > > > > of course if its more than a year old its usually half > > > > > of what you pay for them. another crappy thing > > > > > about Technology!! > > > > > > > > > > Refurbed is definitely the way to go since > > > > > most of us replace rather than repair anyway, > > > > > and then I know that this computer was gone > > > > > through by hand instead of the less personal > > > > > assembly line process that the others usually do. > > > > > I have bought at least 5 refurbished units over > > > > > the years and all are still in service. > > > > > > > > > > Here's a tip to those that don't know. > > > > > when your computer is off take the side off > > > > > usually the left side when you look at the front. > > > > > and after unplugging the power cord blow out > > > > > the inside with canned air. pay extra attention > > > > > to the fans (all that you can find). and try not to > > > > > pull any of the wiring any harder than > > > > > you need to move them out of the way > > > > > for cleaning. > > > > > Dust lays on the motherboard and clogs the > > > > > heatsink on the processor and works like a blanket > > > > > holding in heat, and heat to a computer is death. > > > > > > > > > > Short lived computers are usually the result of heat > > > > > problems but not always parts go bad sometime > > > > > for no reason. > > > > > > > > > > I have been lucky, > > > > > I have some computers that have been around > > > > > for 10 years and still work fine. so some of us do get lucky > > > > > and I do believe that it is all luck... > > > > > > > > > > Ron Vinyard > > > > > Body Cover / Magic Stitches > > > > > 1-888-435-0176 > > > > > > > > > > 420 SW H street > > > > > Grants Pass, OR 97526 > > > > > > > > > > info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > www.bodycoverdesign.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Linen Barn" <linen@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:31 AM > > > > > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Disposable Computers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>I bought an Inspiration 5150 about 1 1/2 years ago with a > > Pentium > > > 4. > > > Has a > > > > >> 40 gig HD, 512 MB Ram, 3.3 ghz processor with built in > > wireless > > > ethernet. I > > > > >> got it off the refurbished site for $1200. I do all my > > internet > > > and > > > e-mail > > > > >> on it as well as some graphics. Its definitely worth the $$$ > > to > > > get a > > > true > > > > >> Pentium. > > > > >> > > > > >> Aaron Sargent > > > > >> The Linen Barn > > > > >> linen@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >> Medford, Oregon > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> From: "Mike Garber" <agraphic2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >> To: "amayausers list" <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:08 AM > > > > >> Subject: [amayausers] Disposable Computers > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>> We bought a Dell Inspiron 1100 lap top 13 months ago (12 > > month > > > warranty) > > > > >>> to do art work on. > > > > >>> It has a celeron processor. It croaked yesterday and we > > called > > > Dell. > > > > >>> The first words out of the techs mouth (after being on hold > > for > > > ever) > > > > >>> was "buy another one". > > > > >>> We told him no, we want to fix it. He helped us run some > > > diagnostics > > > > >>> and determined it was the mother board that went bad. > > > > >>> The laptop cost $700, a new mother board installed would cost > > > $650. > > > > >>> After talking to some local computer repair companies they > > all > > > say the > > > > >>> celeron processor cheap computers are not worth fixing, they > > > are "old > > > > >>> technology" and have a tendency to last just past the > > warranty. > > > Its a > > > > >>> shame that Dell sells the crap. If we would have known this > > we > > > would > > > > >>> have upgraded to a Pentium. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Someone a couple weeks ago was searching for a > > > computer....thought I > > > > >>> would pass this experience along. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We are definitely living in a disposable society. I hate to > > > throw > > > away > > > > >>> a nice looking box, does anyone want to buy a frozen Dell > > > laptop for > > > > >> cheap? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Mike > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >