Thanks Aaron, that is what I had read and I think from a very reliable source who checks with attorneys. Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linen Barn" <linen@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 8:32 AM Subject: [amayausers] Re: Digitizer Question >I would disagree Roland. If YOU create art then you own the art. When you > send it off to a digitizer you still own the art but the digitizer own the > digitized file. You can use it but cannot sell it without transferring > ownership from the digitizer to you. An invoice does not imply transfer > of > ownership but is just a charge for setting up the design. > > Now, if I have a customer give me their logo and I send it to my digitizer > my digitizer owns the design. I can sew it for the customer all I want. > If > that customer asks for their digitized file I would give it to them. > Thats > how I do business in the real world cause no digitizer in their right mind > is going to come back an sue you cause you gave a company their digitized > logo. If this went to court I would probably lose but in the real world I > will take that chance. > > I would suggest talking to whomever you have do your digitizing to find > out > their outlook on who owns what. > > This is just my opinion based on the many disscussions on this subject on > another list. > > Aaron Sargent > The Linen Barn > linen@xxxxxxxxxxx > 541-770-2957 > Medford, OR > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:17 AM > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Digitizer Question > > >> If you ordered a design digitized, and have it done and billed to YOU >> (XYZ Embroidery Shop) then YOU own that digitizing. The 'digitizer' >> is not the designer-they are only creating a usable file from an >> 'existing' design you supplied. If you have the design digitized and >> billed to "Rod's Truck Shop and Restaurant"-then THEY own the rights >> to it. In this case you are a 'middle man'. >> Safe way to operate is to print clearly on your invoices that >> 1: if your CLIENT brings in artwork-HE owns that design >> 2: if YOU develop a design or logo-YOU own the 'copyright' and the >> client has the right to use if for specific purposes (and you CAN put >> in writing for what!) >> 3: For 'additional fees' YOU will release the copyright to the client >> -or- allow him to use it for something else for a fee (like business >> cards, a sign, etc.) >> 4: 'digitizing' fees do NO transfer copyright-and the charge for >> digitizing is a 'setup' fee FOR YOUR SHOP ONLY. >> Do NOT ever put in an invoice that the CUSTOMER owns the digitizing >> file-or you COULD be forced to turn that over when he finds a cheaper >> source of embroidery. You must clearly explain that all 'electronic' >> files (which is digitizing) remain PROPRIETARY to XYZ Embroidery Shop >> and are not the property of the client. >> >> Roland >> >> >> Sunrise Graphics >> 116 Main St >> Claremont, NH 03743 >> 603-543-1324 >> fax 603-543-9902 >> www.sunrisegraphics.org >> signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> On Mar 30, 2006, at 1:17 AM, Rod or Sharon wrote: >> >>> I am sure I read on another e-group post that even though you pay >>> to have a >>> design digitized for a client, you cannot use that design for >>> anyone other >>> than the client it was digitized for without the written consent of >>> the >>> digitizer. The digitizer owns that digitized design for all >>> purposes other >>> than embroidering it for the client it was digitized for---am I >>> correct? >>> Sharon >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >