Roland, I thought I'd try your tip, however, instructions are not in the online manual and I do not have a physical manual. I have V7.00.045 of DS Pro +. After poking around, finally accomplished your instructions. Pretty cool. Thank you. Now if the online manual would include something - nothing on "subtract", "combine", "vector", or "convert" Terri Embroidery Creations -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roland R. Irish III Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:44 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Design Knock Out - Is there an easy way If your artwork is vector (not lettering that can still be edited) then you can go to Working with Vector Objects in your manual, it's chapter 7 in mine) and find 'Subract Vector Objects'. This sounds very simple and easy. Lettering has to be converted to vector, also explained in same chapter. This is available in DesignShop Pro+ only from what my book says. You have your items stacked correctly-(top object sews after bottom, in your stitch tree) then select both, and click the subtract vector tool on the menu bar. Now I don't know if this feature was deleted in newer versions-mine has not been updated since January...but works for me! Roland =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list =========================================================== =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================