Ron, The reason you see bobbin on the top side of the garment is because the bobbin tension ultimately is looser than the upper thread tension. So either your bobbin is giving up tension or your top thread delivery system is holding onto the thread when it's not supposed to. My thoughts here are in the bobbin case, the bobbin spool and thread feed roller system. Knowing you are rather talented in embroidery, I trust you've considered all aspects of the bobbin case, bobbin spool and all things considered in that area. If nothing else, changing out both would eliminate your troubles if this is where your problems stem. I would wonder if you're having any issues with how the thread is being fed through the thread feed rollers. I visited a customer who had a broken thread feed drive gear that was rotating like a broken wagon wheel and was only making contact with the thread feed roller gears approximately half the time. He was getting a similar effect. What I would do is choose a design that has a lot of consistent stitch lengths like the block letter I's. What you want to look for is a consistent rotation of the red thread feed roller while stitches of the same length are passing through the rollers. If you see that the roller(s) appear to be inconsistent with their rotation, then maybe you have thread tangled within the roller gears or drive gear or possibly a broken tooth on a gear. These kind of concerns would cause the thread feed roller to intermittently stop delivering thread to the garment and ultimately the bobbin would then compensate by offering up more bobbin thread able to be seen on the top side of the garment in sporadic locations. At first glance, it appears as though your bobbin is only showing on the black threaded needle. Could it be something related to thread used most of the time. Have you tried moving this spool to another needle location? You say you don't have the software with the auto acti-feed feature... My thougths here are "Get It". Believe me it's worth it. Too much to go into now but it's worth the money hands down. One doesn't realize how material thickness, underlay quantity, overlay density, bobbin tension, thread / bobbin quality, and stitch length factors change as you're sewing and with the improved software, the amount of thread being delivered to the garment changes as necessary, on the fly. Sometimes, one setting does not fit all. -------------- Original message from "Body Cover" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: -------------- > I have been having a run of Good luck for the last 4 years but now All 4 of > my > precious > red wonders have been giving me issues, my old stand by is having tension > issues, and > showing bobbin thread at random intervals, see sample picture at link, > (thanks > John - Levelbest for the Flickr idea) > This has been constant and appears in different places on known good designs. > See sample here - http://www.flickr.com/photos/91988587@N00/292467172/ > Here's what we have done so far. > Sewn on different needles and different thread colors. > Changed the needles - double checked the correct side and angle of rotation, > cleaned out the under bobbin area, found nothing. > Changed bobbin, corrected tensions, changed bobbin case with a known good one > from a different machine, cleaned bobbin case and reused old one. > checked thread feed rollers and red pinch roller (Using new yellow ones - > remember when that's all we talked about on this list!!) > don't have auto-actifeed and have varied tension from 2 to 8 with little > change. > Reloaded design. > it is sewing on jersey knit 100% polos with 2 oz cutaway backing. like we > have > at least 100 times on this same job. > > Any ideas? > > I thing I'm going to have to call you Rod and Sharon and see if you want to > visit Southern Oregon again!! > and I am not under warranty so I don't mind getting dirty and trying to > figure > this out myself, just trying to narrow > the search, > > Thanks all > > > Ron Vinyard > Body Cover / Magic Stitches > > 1-888-435-0176 > 541-471-1504 Fax 541-471-0427 > > 420 SW H Street, Grants Pass, OR 97526-2532 > > info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.bodycoverdesign.com > > =========================================================== > > The AmayaUsers Mailing List > Website: http://www.amayausers.com > Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list > > =========================================================== =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================