The brother bobbin winder (baby lock also sells one) is a separate unit and its only purpose is to wind bobbins. It sells for about $180 on ebay and roughly the same cost at a dealer if I remember correctly. I have the BabyLock EMP6 as well (currently for sale) but never invested in the bobbin winder, though my dealer really tried to push that one. Janet Lounsbury Fabrications 269.273.8495 http://www.fabrications.biz Embroidery*Screen Printing*Custom Lettering =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================