Rod, I am not sure if you run any other machines along side the Amaya. I do I find that all the designs that I run on the other machines run equally well on the Amaya. That=92s why I stated that special digitizing for the Amaya is a Myth. I am an mm (millimetre) person so how do you compare 5 points to 10 points in mm converted? The smallest I would recommend in lettering is 4mm and I have no problem with that on the Amaya.=20 When I bought my Amaya I tested one of my designs to make sure it runs the same as one of the other brands of machines including metallic thread. The machine ran at 1200 spm with metallic. The Australian Melco Agent will confirm or deny that. I have to slow my other machines down to run metallic. I am not beating my drum here about my digitizing because... There are a lot more digitizers out there that are heaps better... I gave up doing work for other new embroiderers a long time ago because of injury (carpel) due to too much digitizing. Id still look at a design to help a newbie though without charge. Unrelated - About Business Practices - I read a book about finite and infinite business practices and Toyotas production practice as in cars not embroidery machines + business practices of the tiger economies. There was heaps to learn. My Guess is Any one aspiring to be a contract embroiderer would have to charge 5 to 25 cents per 1000 stitches and turn around 5k to 10k embroidered designs per day. Any one on the list please correct me if I am wrong. Anand Anand, The major differences with the Amaya and digitized designs is the speed and=20 needle placement. Probably what we should be talking about in this=20 discussion is not digitizing, but editing of designs in general. Two things=20 about the Amaya I and others have noticed, is that the Amayas do not like=20 short stitches in a design and along the same line, it does not like super=20 small columns, as in small lettering. The cure for this is to learn how to=20 use the software.h An example of this is to select the entire design, Properties, Column and=20 at the bottom of the display window, change the "minimum column width" to 10=20 points instead of the default 5 points. This plus the ability to adjust=20 thread feeds, material thickness, stitch lengths, reduce overall stitches,=20 etc, etc, will make it possible to edit any design to run flawlessly with an=20 absolute minimum of thread breaks. All anyone is saying about digitizing for the Amaya is that if the digitizer=20 has an Amaya he can verify a given design on, he will usually do the=20 footwork for the customer letting him know the best settings and speed he=20 ran the design at to achieve the best results. If a person wants to slow the=20 Amaya down to the slower speeds some of the other machines run at, than you=20 may need less editing of individual designs. Some designs need quite a lot=20 and others don't need any. Adjusting and editing designs so the Amaya can run at 12 to 1300+ does not=20 make it an inferior machine in my book. An analogy would be kind of like having a high performance racecar. Feed it 85 octane fuel, it will still run=20 but clean up the fuel and increase the octane and it will perform much=20 better. The same applies to any given design--clean it up and it will run=20 better on any machine, especially one that is running at high speed........ Rod Springer Rod & Sharon Springer Embroidery Cottage Melco Amaya Technician & Trainers Design Shop Pro+ & Digitizing Boise, ID 83713 208-938-3038 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Kesavan" <kesavan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: [amayausers] : Amaya Specific Digitizers Myth > My designs run well on my the happy, tajima and amaya . > > If one had to digitze specially for the Amaya that would make the=20 > Amaya an inferior machine in my books. > > A badly digitized design will run badly on every brand of machine. > > I would like to hear input from others who own other brands of=20 > machines including the Amaya. > > Anand > > > > As John has pointed out-this already digitized design is NOT well=20 > digitized and does NOT sew out well. > Yes, a 'well digitized design' WILL run better on all machines-but a > 'well digitized' design that is 'optimized' for an Amaya will run better > on that Amaya, and most likely superior on other machines. The problem > being with this design-that 'someone' thought it ran fine on their > system-and it looks like garbage. Customer isn't pleased with it-and > since John wants to put out a superior product, he wants to have it > digitized for his Amaya. What's the big deal? I understand exactly what > he is saying. I deal with garbage all day long from clients and even > their 'media agents' that think they know how to do graphics simply > because they are sitting in front of a computer that makes nice colors. > Just because their logo looks 'perfect' on their computer does NOT mean > it will work as the artwork I need to print their banner, or screen > their shirts...and means I have to 'digitize' it for each one of my > applications. Equipment specific digitizing-to get optimum results. Just > 3 days ago after several phone calls and emails explaining what I needed > for a ONE COLOR design for his bar glass imprints-my 'educated' client > sends me the result...a 72 dpi jpg in EIGHT colors. To him, that is a > one color image. Yup....1 color for the main > outlines and > larger areas-with 7 other shades or color fills. > This design I've looked at for John has multiple outlines and shadows > around 1/4" letters, 'shading' on 3/16" wide oval outlines, with back > shadow > behind those...no wonder it sews like mud! > > Roland = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.18/506 - Release Date: > 30/10/2006 > > > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > The AmayaUsers Mailing List > Website: http://www.amayausers.com > Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list > > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 --=20 No virus found in this incoming message. 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