This message was posted by Greenwing on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1385/2.html#000018 Thanks Ed I can see how injection molding can be much more cost effective for them. Thanks for your help.. I talked to Hoop masters yesterday at DAX here in MN. They are still planning to make a 13x6 hoop for sleeves and legs, I will be the first in line. Oh yes I forgot to mention you only need to enter your hoop sizes once as the hoop file in the AOS is the same in DS. You can just copy it over to the DS folder from the AOS. the file path should be C:\Program Files (x86)\Melco\Design Shop 2008\system\Hoops.mdb =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================