[amayausers.com] Re: Acti-feed question - setting lower limits
- From: "Studio 187 LLC" <InsideStudio187@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 18:28:49 -0400
Interesting still . . . thank you for all your info. . . .
Geri
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From: HK Acree
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: [amayausers.com] Re: Acti-feed question - setting lower limits
I have to agree with Aaron. The software changes from early on till now have
made so many things kind of obsolete in a way. Just to kind of get some
clarity for those that are relatively new lets play the hypothetical game.
The fathers (and mothers) of the embroidery trade have said if our tensions
are correct we shall see the 1/3 bobbin-2/3 top thread on the back of our
column stitches. So if we are striving for this and do not have enough top
thread we can do a couple things. Decrease top thread tension (feeds more
thread) or increase bobbin tension (feeds less thread) or a combination of
both. But we are in Amaya land and have no knobs to play with. We are at a
MT (material thickness) of say 6 so we go up to a 7. Now we have almost no
bobbin showing and the top stitch looks ever so slightly loose. So how do we
compensate now?
This is where the Column Feed tab comes into play. We could stay at a 7 and
change the column feed to a 50 or 60 thus decreasing the thread feed by a
smaller amount than going to a MT of 6. Or we could go back to a 6 and then
drop the column feed to a 30, increasing thread but not as much as a MT of
7.
The same theory applies to the Run/Fill tab. As you make changes to these
parameters you get a visual interpretation in the little window. This is
what the software allows us to do and in theory it allows us to really fine
tune the thread feed system. BUT. Is it really necessary to do all this? I
don't know. There are lots of folks that are not changing these parameters
and have great success. The Auto Acti-Feed has kind of taken thread feed out
of our hands to a point. I do know if an operator is having issues with sew
quality or thread breaks you are most likely not going to find the cure with
these settings.
After I re-read what I am about to post it occurs to me that I have not
really given Geri the kind of answer she may be looking for. There are some
thread feed settings in the OS software and are a real good place to start.
Take Aarons settings and use them as a beginning point, then as you become
more familiar with the garments you are working with you will gain the
experience that says okay this should be a whatever minimum setting.
Hope this gives you something to get wrapped around.
Herb
Royal Embroidery
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From: "Linen Barn" <linen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: [amayausers.com] Re: Acti-feed question - setting lower limits
>I bought my first AMAYA's in 2002 and I have never changed the Column Feed
>or Run/Fill Feed settings and since the auto Material Thickness has been
>added a year or 2 ago I have not had to adjust the MT either. The only
>setting I change is the lower limit setting. If doing T's or polos I
>usually set it at 2, sweatshirts 4-6, unstructured caps 4-6, structured
>6-9. This tends to prevent some thread breaks by not allowing the MT to go
>lower than it should. YOu can tell you have it set too high if you are
>getting false bobbin breaks. If you get False bobbin breaks then set it
>down a number or 2.
>
> Aaron Sargent
> The Linen Barn
> linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 541-770-2957
> Medford, OR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Studio 187 LLC" <InsideStudio187@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2007 5:55 AM
> Subject: [amayausers.com] Re: Acti-feed question - setting lower limits
>
>
>> Thank you Herb. Could you give me an example of settings for something
>> specific? Umm, say, a heavy cotton hoodie . . . what would you change and
>> why? Then an example for something lighter, like, general cotton sewing
>> fabric. What would you change and why. I think the examples will help me
>> wrap my head around the process. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
>>
>> Geri
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: HK Acree
>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 2:45 PM
>> Subject: [amayausers.com] Re: Acti-feed question - setting lower limits
>>
>>
>> Geri,
>> Column Feed is the setting that determines how much thread is fed to your
>> column stitches. 40 is the default. A larger number decreases the amount
>> of
>> thread being fed. This can be used as a fine tuning tool when setting
>> your
>> tensions (material thickness).
>> Run/Fill Feed is the same thing except it applies to run stitches and
>> fill
>> stitches.
>> Material Thickness is self explanatory.
>> Autofeed Lower Limit. The gravy on the potatoes. I like to run this at
>> one
>> number under what I think the material thickness is.
>> Prevents the machine from dropping to a lower material thickness than the
>> setting you specify.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Herb
>> Royal Embroidery
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Studio 187 LLC" <InsideStudio187@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 9:04 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers.com] Re: Acti-feed question - setting lower limits
>>
>>
>>>I have the OS 7.00.055 and the under the "Thread Feed" tab I have the
>>>following options/settings:
>>>
>>> Column Feed: 40
>>> Run/Fill Feed: 100
>>> Material Thickness: 4
>>> Autofeed Lower Limit: 1
>>>
>>> Could someone please explain more about these settings and what they do
>>> and what they should be.
>>>
>>> I also have the Towa Bobbin Case Tension Gauge. The recommendation is
>>> 18-25. Does this sound right for the XT's? What does everyone find
>>> works best for ARC poly in the XT?
>>>
>>> Geri
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Loyda
>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 10:21 AM
>>> Subject: [amayausers.com] Re: Acti-feed question - setting lower limits
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I bought my AMAYA about 1 1/2 years ago. I have version 7.00.055 and I
>>> do not have the lower actifeed minimum. I just have a setting for
>>> material thickness, but not for a minimum. When you find out the
>>> version, I would appreciate knowing it. Thanks!
>>>
>>> -Loyda
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Shuffletown Embroidery
>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 4:14 AM
>>> Subject: [amayausers.com] Re: Acti-feed question - setting lower limits
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Aaron, I will call him today. I looked for information and did
>>> not see anything on the Melco support website. The latest release shown
>>> on the Amaya Users website is 7.00.055, so that's probably it.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>> Mary Buckle
>>> Shuffletown Embroidery
>>> Charlotte, NC
>>> 704-398-1273
>>>
>>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Linen Barn
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 6:25 PM
>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [amayausers.com] Re: Acti-feed question - setting lower limits
>>>
>>> In AMAYA OS click on settings. Select the Thread Feed Tab. At the
>>> bottom is a box for Autofeed Lower Limit I think is what it says. As
>>> far as version I can't remember which version it came out in. I am a
>>> Beta tester so I get stuff early to work out bugs so I have had this
>>> feature for a while now so its hard to remember when it came out but I
>>> am thinking it was 7.055 but don't quote me on this. I am now running
>>> 7.00.110 and I am not sure if this is a realeased version or not but I
>>> think it may be. If nothing else call your sales rep and see if you are
>>> eligible for the free upgrade or if you are past and have to pay. Its
>>> worth a shot.
>>>
>>> Aaron Sargent
>>> The Linen Barn
>>> linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>> 541-770-2957
>>> Medford, OR
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Shuffletown Embroidery
>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:01 PM
>>> Subject: [amayausers.com] Acti-feed question - setting lower limits
>>>
>>> I can't believe I sent this question with the wrong subject. Here it is
>>> again. (see attached.)
>>> Since I can't find anything in my help section, I must not have the
>>> correct version of the software. I'm at 7.00.047.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>> Mary Buckle
>>> Shuffletown Embroidery
>>> Charlotte, NC
>>> 704-398-1273
>>>
>>> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shuffletown
>>> Embroidery
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:22 PM
>>> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [amayausers.com] Re: Looking for camo (youth) in maroon, grey
>>> and white
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> I was looking in the archives for the discussion about setting the lower
>>> limit on acti-feed and haven't found it. Perhaps the discussion wasn't
>>> on the board.
>>> Could someone repost where that setting is and which software version?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mary
>>>
>>> Mary Buckle
>>> Shuffletown Embroidery
>>> Charlotte, NC
>>> 704-398-1273
>>>
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