I do understand what you are saying about the design. That is why I gave the operator the benefit of the doubt. Yes it was a stock design, then if this design has problems, why use it to demo like 10 times in 2 different demos the same day? That is what I am talking about. If I were the person demonstrating the software, I would use that to show how you compensate for the design, or if it is stabilization, then say that the Amaya needs stabilization on some designs. Isn't that why WE always do a test on our designs? Just that it would be so very important to me for the demo I do to IMPRESS the people, not discourage them. With this in mind, and yes I am a person who pays attention to the little details, FIX IT. Use something else, and also use it for an example of what you may come up against. I am a computer programmer, and teach people how to use the computer for embroidery in many different design packages. I am not a pro, and am now making the decision to go with one software package that is reasonable in price and comprehensive in features, since I just can't afford to update 4 different software's. This is where I have many of my contacts since I do private lessons, and thankfully once I get people over the familiarizing them and accomplishing things with their particular software, they won't need me....they can figure things out themselves. I would give them a second chance, but was told " I am sorry you feel this way. At this point we won't be doing business together. I would like to thank you for considering Melco Embroidery Systems in your quest for equipment and wish you all the best.". To me that is a kiss-off. Bye see ya don't need ya kind of thing. That is what frustrates me. And I can't believe that Melco's head office would think that is the way to go.... But then no one from the head office has contacted me, and I don't plan on taking it to them, because I would fire the sales rep if I ever heard what happened, or saw the emails etc. Like I said there was an X-disgruntled employee that talked to me (now working for another manufacturer of commercial machines). I told the Melco rep that I talked to an X-employee, and the stuff he said back to me about this X-employee, was totally unprofessional, and made me wonder who was worse for what they had said. I asked about the problems with the bobbin breaking sensor etc.(took the quote from the middle of the email), , and keeps a particular part on hand and how Melco is addressing that, and they tell me that it is NOT a problem. Like this person on the list is lying, and I said it as something I am aware of, and understand, and will work with until the problem fix is found. Like I said this was NOT Don M. and I want to be very certain that I did put this in, since I really have not dealt with Don directly, but do CC him on the emails to the other rep. Haven't talked to any senior, and frankly I feel that the questions and things I ask are not taken anywhere further than the rep, and he is the one speaking "for the company", that is why I am particular in my writing. I wanted to educate myself on what is out there, work with each company to establish a price and compare the features, and choose the best machine for the people I am doing this for. I have to be able to feel that my recommendation has been well made. I made the choice to go with the Amaya for many reasons and price was a big factor in the choice since my friend has a limit set by her husband. My limit is my choice since I just sold my home, and have as much as I feel is appropriate, and reasonable, and not more than I feel I want to take from the proceeds so we can build the new building. This is a toy for me, not a business expense, although if it works well I may use it for that at some time, but the use will not be production to begin with. I liked how one person told me they had one and added 5 more in a year. I would like to feel the need to do that.... that is sure a growing business. I want that flexibility... I really do appreciate your input, that is why I joined the list, and basically most of you are pleased with your machines, and know the downfalls, and are working with the company in those areas, and that is what I would expect to be reasonable. Thanks to all who have offered to help me work with their rep. I have asked Don and Jon to give me permission to buy from another rep if they feel the way Jon stated in his email. I have not yet received the reply. Will let you know, since another rep would have to get that permission. Jon has made it perfectly clear he will no longer do business with me. Yes I am frustrated after looking for a year, making my decision, and now this.......Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "frank davis" <fadavis@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [amayausers] AMAYA info, and follow-up > Pat Richards > I am also a Melco Partner and have always been paid promptly. I think that > you explained that comment with the phrase "disgruntled x-Melco employee". > As far as sales reps, I have only dealt with Don, who has always been very > helpful and professional. Any price info has always come in written form. > I have never had a bad experience with anyone from Melco, from sales reps in > the field to the top people in Denver. I have found Melco, in general, to > be one of the finest companies I have ever done business with. I agree > with Pati. There may have been some kind of misunderstanding of who wanted > what. I would recommend a fresh start, if not with the original rep, then > another. What you have described would certainly be frustrating to anyone. > But it is so unlike anything I have experienced with anyone at Melco. > I would also like to address the problem of the outline that you witnessed > on your demo. Although the machine is very sophisticated it has one > problem, it is very stupid. It will only do what the computer is telling it > to do. There are two main reasons that an outline may not line up. If an > item is not hooped properly it can move in the hoop. The machine stitches in > an invisible plane, it doesn't care where the fabric is. The outline is > usually the last thing to be stitched. If the rest of the design has > shifted during sew out , which is not uncommon, the machine will still > stitch the outline where it thinks it should be in relationship to the > design it just stitched. It won't realize the rest of the design shifted > due to operator error or some other problem. The other thing that may cause > the problem is bad digitizing. When I give a demo I also demo the software. > I use that exact example to demonstrate the importance of having good > software. I run a design with poor registration, which is not uncommon in > some stock designs, and then show how to correct it with the software. > Hope this has been some help. It really is a good company and machine. > Good luck with your endeavor. > > Frank > Force Ten Embroidery > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Pupcakesemb@xxxxxxx> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: <jnajjar@xxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2003 11:54 AM > Subject: Re: [amayausers] AMAYA info, and follow-up > > > > To Pat Richards, I am an Amaya owner in the Northeast who has done > business > > with both Don McCreadie and Jon Najjar and they have never given me > misleading > > price information. It must be a misunderstanding. Also, both have sent > me > > their price information in writing after our discussions. I think you > should > > give them another chance. > > > > Secondly, I am a Partner and I have been paid very timely. > > > > Pati > > Pupcakes Embroidery > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: amayausers-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > For additional commands, e-mail: amayausers-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: amayausers-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: amayausers-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx