[amayausers] Re: 3mm 3D foam puffy on hat question...
- From: "HK Acree" <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:26:47 -0800
Peter,
A hair dryer does not supply a temperature that will shrink the foam quickly
enough to do the job before it takes it's tole (?) on the thread. The foam
melts at a lower temp than the thread does but if you stay on it too long
you kill the satin stitch. This is where the walk outline at the small
stitch length comes in to play. It cuts the foam so closely that the foam
shrinks faster than the thread. Why don't you send me your design just for
fun.
Herb
Royal Embroidery
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Strike" <strikesystems@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 10:00 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: 3mm 3D foam puffy on hat question...
> Currently using the Melcomart one as well. Since it's the only one
> I've ever used I thought I'd ask if someone has found a better one.
> It seems to be doing okay, I still have some fuzzy pieces popping out.
>
> My hair dryer doesn't seem to get hot enough. My heat gun gets too hot
> and even with the best precision I can muster I seem to burn the
> threads. So I've found that just using my little metal thread remover
> to poke it back in is the best option for me right now. It just takes
> a bit more time than I'd like, but since it's only 2 dozen hats, that
> will do for now.
>
> Thanks for the replies to all,
> Peter
>
> --- Rod or Sharon <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Peter,
>> We use the foam from Melco Mart and have good success. I have heard
>> that
>> the stuff from craft stores is a different quality and just haven't
>> tried
>> it.
>> Sharon
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peter Strike" <strikesystems@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:14 AM
>> Subject: [amayausers] Re: 3mm 3D foam puffy on hat question...
>>
>>
>> > Thanks Bob, I'll make those adjustments and see what happens.
>> >
>> > Could you recommend a very good quality clean ripping foam? In the
>> > future this may help me out.
>> > Thanks,
>> > Peter Strike
>> > Logo Stitch
>> > Indianapolis, IN
>> > 317-525-3242
>> >
>> > --- Kushnerick <bkushner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Peter
>> >> Without seeing the stitchout, it is a bit difficult to make any
>> >> suggestions as to what you could do to improve the stitching but I
>> >> noticed that you are using a double zigzag underlay ..... I
>> wouldn't.
>> >>
>> >> I would suggest that you try a 80/12 needle, a slightly higher
>> stitch
>> >>
>> >> density than you are currently using, tacking the foam down with
>> >> spray
>> >> adhesive or a few strategic tack down stitches before the design
>> >> stitching starts and only use an edge walk underlay.
>> >>
>> >> Also, not all foams are created equal ... some rip cleaner and
>> give a
>> >>
>> >> better overall appearance than others.
>> >>
>> >> Bob
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Peter Strike wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I'm using quite a bit of underlay, double zig zag and edge walk
>> >> >(they're both very wide near the column stitches). Also using
>> the
>> >> >75/11, I will try dropping density a bit, but am a little afraid
>> of
>> >> >covering all the puff.
>> >> >
>> >> >To reiterate earlier, it's decent, probably good enough to sell.
>> >> But I
>> >> >guess I am just mystified at how well my brother's college hat
>> >> looks.
>> >> >I'm being picky, but not sure how much more I'll be able to
>> improve
>> >> it.
>> >> >Side by side you can see it, but from 5 to 6 feet away to the
>> >> untrained
>> >> >eye it's probably fine :).
>> >> >
>> >> >Thanks for the help, if you think it's too much underlay, let me
>> >> know,
>> >> >Thanks ,
>> >> >Peter
>> >> >--- HK Acree <hkacree@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>Are you using any underlay? If so what kind? Should be using a
>> >> 75/11
>> >> >>needle
>> >> >>at minimum if it is a structured cap might consider going to a
>> >> 80/12
>> >> >>sharp.
>> >> >>How big is the O? Try dropping density.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>From: "Peter Strike" <strikesystems@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >>Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2006 11:50 PM
>> >> >>Subject: [amayausers] 3mm 3D foam puffy on hat question...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Hi,
>> >> >>>I am trying to do a puff Block O for a school, and have had
>> pretty
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>good
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>success getting it to look okay. But not great.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Here's my question. When I compare this one to collegiate
>> >> licensed
>> >> >>>hats I can't get my string to lay as smooth or flat or appear
>> as
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>nice.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>I don't think it's too dense, it's a 2.3 density for the puff.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Would a smaller needle do the trick? Also smaller weight
>> thread?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Those are the only variations I haven't tried.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>I can try the needle tomorrow if I don't hear back. But I'd
>> have
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>to
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>order the thread if someone thinks that's the ticket.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>Any help appreciated,
>> >> >>>thanks,
>> >> >>>Peter Strike
>> >> >>>Logo Stitch
>> >> >>>Indianaplis, IN
>> >> >>>317-525-3242
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