In ‘ The Gospel As Revealed To Me ‘ by Maria Valtorta, a passage describes the
return into the city from the tomb. A passerby insults Mary, John knocks him to
the ground and forces him to apologize. This attracts the attention of
soldiers, and on being told what had transpired, arrest the passerby. Patrick
On Dec 22, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Marty Barrack (Redacted sender "mkbjmj" for
DMARC) <dmarc-noreply-outsider@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Shalom Chaverim,
We all revere the Talmud, but IF it calls the Blessed Virgin Mary a harlot it
says more about the Talmud than it does about the Queen Mother in the Davidic
line from King Solomon to the Son of David, the Son of God.
Please read my Mary Garden web page
https://secondexodus.com/home/words/mary-garden/ ;
<https://secondexodus.com/home/words/mary-garden/>
to follow the Queen Mother tradition from Solomon to Mary to the Memorare.
In particular, follow the Scripture tradition that names each king of Israel
AND HIS MOTHER during that time. I put a link on each instance so you can
follow that mention all the way through that tradition.
Today many Catholics pray the Memorare every day, and recognize its origins
in the Queen Mother tradition because “he will not refuse you.”
In Messiah,
Marty Barrack <><
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On Dec 19, 2020, at 1:19 AM, Tsion Avienu, S.F.O.
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
ב"ה
Hey folks! Hope everyone's Chanukah was a blessed one. My Chassidic roots
left me a love for the Tanya. I never really got into Daf Yomi or any
serious Talmud study. My bride tells me that the Talmud call our Mother
a...um...well...a harlot to put it politely. I hope this isn't true. But is
it?
Tsion
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On Friday, December 18th, 2020 at 7:53 PM, robbinson
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That’s Awesome Rachael - I read the Talmud often - but not because I think
it has the authority as God’s word - but because I find it interesting and
helps me connect with my Jewish heritage and culture. Interestingly, in
Orthodox Judaism the Talmud has the authority of scripture and is treated
as a “second Torah” (it is not). My point is not that there isn’t a
“richness” in understanding Church history and traditions that have evolved
in the Catholic Church (I’ve studied the Church fathers relatively
extensively) and am all the better for it - it is a question of what is
actually God’s word and what is the ‘gospel’.
My personal library of Theology (which is pretty extensive) has an robust
collection of Catholic resources and apologetic works, encyclicals and as
well as Hebrew Catholic works - I enjoy them immensely.
Blessings,
Brian
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On Friday, December 18, 2020, 7:34 PM, Rachael Murphy
<rachael@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Catholic tradition comes from Judaism and comes out of Judaism. The
Catholic faith stands on the shoulders of giants.
Judaism has its Torah but it also has its wonderful commentaries. Judaism
would be in great deficit without its traditions and commentaries by such
greats as Rabbi Akiva, Rashi, Maimonides, Rambam and Ramban, Ibn Ezra, and
Abravanel. These are among my favorites and an absolute delight to the mind
with every Sabbath portion.
Judaism is RICH. Too many Jewish texts all at once and I can easily get
spiritual indigestion !
The Catholic faith also would be much the poorer without its Traditions and
commentaries by the Church Fathers and Church Doctors -- St Ambrose
(especially on the Psalms), St Jerome, St Augustine, St Athanasius, St
Cyril of Jerusalem (with his commentaries to the newbies to the Faith), St
Catherine of Siena, St Thomas Aquinas and St Alphonsus Liguori (check out
his commentaries on the Rosary).
Check out: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/ ;
<https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/>
Check out the Liturgy of the Hours: the Office of Readings in the second
reading.
Check out:
https://www.crossroadsinitiative.com/media/articles/doctors-of-the-catholic-church/
<https://www.crossroadsinitiative.com/media/articles/doctors-of-the-catholic-church/>
Certainly, I could survive on a "simple" diet, but why in the world would I
want to limit myself if I had the opportunity and the ability to savor such
deep wells of delicacies ? It was the wealth of Office of Reading
commentaries which brought me into the Catholic Faith.
Those who wish to remain with Scripture only are certainly welcome to it. I
will defend to the death a person's right to do so.
I for one, however, will continue to dive into both Jewish and Catholic
commentaries as often as time and energy allows.
One life time is never enough to mine even a thimbleful of one of these
absolute gems.
Rachael Murphy
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Sent: Friday, 18 December, 2020 4:03 PM
Subject: [ahc] Re: Testing
Thank you for the kind note David
If you are willing and interested, I would be willing to discuss any or all
of the points you just made (in love) live via phone or zoom. Of course I
would not be offended if you chose to decline that offer.
God gave us the the Old and the New Testament (the body of believers
“accepted” them). The Eucharist is a big topic for sure.
Scripture alone I would suggest is by definition a biblical perspective -
Of course, Jesus said things that were not written down in books (we know
this because scripture told us this), but scripture is sufficient (also by
its own terms) and we need to examine closely traditions or extra biblical
teachings against God’s word.
Wishing you a wonderful Christmas as well - it is such a beautiful and
special time of year.
In Christ,
Brian
