Yeah, that’s what’s hard: getting screwed by Ross and then by Hamstreet and
company.
Because Hamstreet is incentivized to keep Ross generating income to pay him, he
will look the other way when it comes to criminal activity. It appears he
already has. I think they’re all in it together. I was shocked to read that
outright lie (that they couldn’t locate the signed documents for the marina
transaction—they were supplied with our proofs of claim) in the report; though
I suspected there was deep corruption in all this, I first thought it would
occur mostly south of the border.
I have not heard back from Hamstreet. I still puzzle at the brazenness of the
lie. It means that he is disregarding outright the proofs of claim and all
communication from investors. He would rather listen to lies from crooks who
stroke his ego.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Ila Stanek wrote:
From my standpoint, it is just fortunate we didn’t all get pregnant as a
result of the judge’s ruling today (translation: we got screwed!). I
apologize for my working class assessment, but it feels accurate.
However, the fight continues as we know we are victims here, but victims
willing to fight to put the villain(s) of piece out of business so no one
else will get hurt.
Ila
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 2, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Ed Wilson <ej.wilson62@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Does anybody know the outcome from today's court proceedings.
Sent from my iPhone
Thanks,
Ed Wilson
On Aug 2, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Bill, thank you. I am glad to hear your thoughts and encouragement!! Hoping
for the best for all of us. God loves justice.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, at 4:44 PM, William Pritchard wrote:
No one can read Hamstreet’s Aug. 1 AEM Receiver update and think AEI and
AEMM were incompetently managed. No one is that poor of a business person.
Only a brilliant individual with no moral foundation and with premeditated
intention to defraud is capable of weaving such a tangled financial web of
deceit.
When people pathologically lie, they do not think they are lying. The
Silicon Valley tech company called Theranos started by a young Stanford
dropout named Elizabeth Holmes. Her trial for fraud will be in 2020. She
managed to lie her way through almost $1B, (a 1 followed by 9 zeros)
before her lies caught up with her. She fooled some amazingly brilliant
and wise people. I personally believe she has some deep pathological
psychological defects. To her, truth is ephemeral.
These are people she fooled who were on her Board of Directors: Riley
Bechtel, former Bechtel Group CEO, David Boise, a founder and the chairman
of Boies Schiller Flexner, William Foege, former director CDC, Richard
Kovacevich, former Wells Fargo CEO, Gen. James Mattis, later U. S.
Secretary of Defense, Fabrizio Bonanni, former executive vice president of
Amgen, former U.S. Secretary of State George Schulz, William Perry, former
US Se restart of Defense, Henry Kissinger, former U.S. Secretary of
State), Sam Nunn, former U.S. Senator, Bill Frist, former U.S. Senator and
heart-transplant surgeon.
These are people who invested fortunes with her: the Walton Family ($150
million), Rupert Murdoch ($121 million), Betsy DeVos (($100 million), and
the Cox family (of Cox Media Group: over 35 newspapers, 57 TV stations, 71
FM stations, 15 am stations) ($100 million).
HBO did a documentary on Theranos (“Out For Blood in Silicon Valley”) In
it, you will see seasoned, hardened investigative reporters become
emotional about the fact that they believed a lie.
I purposely mentioned these details & minutiae with the names of people
and huge amounts of money. Sorry, but I do not mean to bore you or stun
you with my research abilities. I just recently read the book by a WSJ
reporter & watched the documentary, so it’s fresh in my memory.
But wrote this to remind myself and all of you good people that there are
people out there who will lie to your face and any one, and I mean anyone,
can believe them.
Our reaction is to wisely pursue justice through the courts, civilly and
criminally. If we’re patient and fortunate, perhaps we can get something
in return, perhaps some justice.
Don’t give up. Hang in there.
My wife and I will be away for a bit on family duties, but are in this to
pursue the devil. Evil always makes mistakes.
Best regards
Bill
On Aug 2, 2019, at 3:41 PM, treytennyson3 <treytennyson3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Chris, I cannot thank you enough for your efforts on behalf of the group.
We need the feds to get on this aggressively, lock up assets and go after
all the property acquired through this criminal enterprise. Our money was
not lost through poor management. It was taken from us.
If there is anything I can do to assist your conversations with the FBI
please let me know.
Trey
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
-------- Original message --------
From: Christine Bugas <chrisbugas@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 8/2/19 3:32 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: FW: Content has been updated on aeminvestors.com
List mates: especially Trey— we are in the FBI bldgat present time. They
are copying hard copies of two Columbian articles, the Hamstreet pdf
update from August 1,2019, and a fourth bit of info I am blocking on
right now. We have been sitting in an Ivey room after a security
assessment. I drove here w Jim after trying to call in a case report and
being bumped off 3 times. We now are here and their phones and computers
are down. They do not know why. Fortunately, I have several hard copy
files and they are copying w a xerox — the are prepared as were we in ER
for total electronic meltdown. Trump always hated FBI.
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 1:13 PM Ila Stanek <timeout29@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Thanks so much. That’s great.
Sent from Ila's iPhone with a mind of its own.
On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I just phoned the FBI in Salt Lake City and gave information as
follow-up to my call on June 3. The phone clerk said she would get it
documented (the report on the website). So I've done all I can do.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, at 9:36 AM, bfranke wrote:
I filed a report with the FBI online for Washington and referenced the
website of Hamstreet. I couldn’t get through to them by phone. Belinda
*From:* aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Julia Pond
*Sent:* Friday, August 02, 2019 10:23 AM
*To:* aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [aem-vanc] Re: FW: Content has been updated on
aeminvestors.com
I will be contacting the FBI, Salt Lake City office (office for my
region), this morning to attempt to transmit the report to them.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, at 8:17 AM, bfranke wrote:
I have forwarded the link on the Hamstreet report to Robert Kondrat.
I also called the FBI, but don’t have a particular contact name. I
hope Chris will be able to do that. I will try to call again also.
Praying for the best results in Court today and thank you for all
your efforts to help us all. We look forward to an update.
Belinda Franke
*From:* aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:aem-vanc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *treytennyson3
*Sent:* Friday, August 02, 2019 9:50 AM
*To:* aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [aem-vanc] Re: FW: Content has been updated on
aeminvestors.com
Chris, if you have not done so already, please send the Receiver's
report to whoever you are speaking with at the FBI. This is
racketeering which is a federal crime, and the assets of Miles and
family could be seized as the proceeds of the criminal enterprise.
Trey
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
-------- Original message --------
From: Christine Bugas <chrisbugas@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: 8/2/19 7:37 AM (GMT-07:00)
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: FW: Content has been updated on
aeminvestors.com
Marycarol Feldman, Maureen Minsker and Ross Miles are siblings. Tooty
is Romelle Wampler. She used to be Romelle Minsker. She is Miles
Minsker’s sister. Their mother is Maureen Minsker, Marycarol’s
roommate. Larry Wampler — also an investor in the pools, is Tooty’s
exhusband.
I made contact to see if her state of need had resolved. It had. She
said at the Red Lion In that she was 100 percent reliant on the
checks coming from the pools. She was furious and fearful.
When I inquired about her financial ability to survive yesterday— she
said she was fine. She said “there are other investments”. She did
not have those on the day of the gathering at the Red Lion Inn I am
certain.
As this debacle has been executed by Ross and Co, he has made
provisions for Marycarol and Tooty it is clear to me. I believe he
also “is taking care of “ Larry Wampler.
Miles minsker, his nephew is in deep, as is his partner Maureen Wile.
The update to the Hamstreet site has blown the windows out and
finally we can see clearly all that we only guessed about.
I have filled out forms on line w the national website for FBI. I
also have contacted and they have recontacted and am exchanging info
with SEC.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:31 PM Neil & Marilyn <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
No, I'm wrong. Mary Carol is a sister of Ross Miles.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:30 PM Neil & Marilyn <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Is Tooty same person as Mary Carol? Guess not? Mary Carol and
Maureen Minsker live together near me in Salmon Creek Estates Condo
Assn. They are not living large based on condo they share.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 9:05 PM Christine Bugas
<chrisbugas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ugh. This is so ugly.
I had a conversation with Tooty, Ross's niece and Miles Minsker's
sister today. She texted me after I was photographed at her gated
community ringing her phone. She was distant, and there were long
silences and finally she asked how I could think Ross would lie
and that he had tried with 5 mil of his own money to make it all
work and ... ignorant drivel.
But what I gleaned of interest was the difference between her tone
today and the tone the day of the Red Lion meeting in which
Hamstreet laid out their plan to 200 folks. At that meeting she
was distraught, saying she had nothing left, no money for meds
even. Today she said she was fine. I pointed out that she had said
she would have to sell her condo. She said "i'm fine" . Asked
about Larry, her exhusband (Larry Wampler) who earlier she had
worried would have to sell his home in Hawaii as he too was a
member of the pools-- Tooty today said he was fine as well. Then
the nugget: "He's a member of this family as much as the rest of
us" I believe Ross is also caring for the losses of Larry Wampler.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:28 PM Neil & Marilyn <nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I forgot, him and his cohorts picking up litter along highways
for life!
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:25 PM Neil & Marilyn
<nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
OH! He could be working for a landscape service cutting lawns.
Minimum wage too!
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:24 PM Neil & Marilyn
<nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
He doesn't have any experience doing that! Too late now! :-)
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:22 PM Julia Pond
<juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That or be made to earn an honest living for the rest of his
days.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, at 7:20 PM, Neil & Marilyn wrote:
A friend suggested Ross Miles be staked down over a large ant
hill and left! Sounds good to me! :-)
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:17 PM Neil & Marilyn
<nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Agree
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:14 PM treytennyson3
<treytennyson3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Agreed. The report was shocking in that it revealed as much
as it did. It came as close to staying that they stole our
money as possible.
I think time will show that multiple members of the family
pocketed huge profits off illegal transfers,. They all need
to be in jail and their assets and properties seized.
Trey
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
-------- Original message --------
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 8/1/19 7:09 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: FW: Content has been updated on
aeminvestors.com
Yes it should. A federal investigation would put the kibosh
on the receivership as well.
I am still shaking my head as to why the report didn’t say
something like “ we found so many things we know to be
unlawful that this has been referred for prosecution.”
Of course, in that event the billings stop.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, at 7:07 PM, treytennyson3 wrote:
Perhaps the feds can help us lock up property that has
been funded by the AEM investors as well as Ross Miles
property in order to preserve it. This should be the first
priority
Trey
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
-------- Original message --------
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 8/1/19 6:50 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: FW: Content has been updated on
aeminvestors.com
Absolutely. I have not had someone contact me back but I
may call again and indicate that I have new information
and see if I can email it to an agent.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, at 6:46 PM, treytennyson3 wrote:
Julia, please send anyone who contacts you at the FBI a
copy of the Receivers August 1, 2019 update.bbThis
includes the key conclusions and findings they need to
support federal charges
Trey
Sent from my Galaxy Tab A
-------- Original message --------
From: Julia Pond <juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 8/1/19 6:03 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: aem-vanc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [aem-vanc] Re: FW: Content has been updated on
aeminvestors.com
I called the FBI on June 3. Hopefully others did too. The
Johnson’s attorney was going to as well.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, at 5:37 PM, Robert Paladeni wrote:
FBI already involved! YES!!!
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 1, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Neil & Marilyn
<nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ross may need to watch over his back as long as he
isn't in prison. Just saying, maybe prison is a safer
place for him to be? Personally I prefer to just enjoy
the rest of my life in a peaceful mode at home here in
Salmon Creek. :-)
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:35 PM Neil & Marilyn
<nmr1311b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes Robert, that CO property! It could have been
anyone of us! Ross Miles must have read an
instructional book by Bernie Madoff! Bernie is in
prison for 145 years! Ross, if it's just 20 he will be
dead by then anyway!
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 4:32 PM Robert Paladeni
<rpaladeni@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just finished looking at the Hamstreet document and
it's pretty revealing. The comingling of funds, loans
to individuals, over stating property values, and it
appears that a marina in Mexico had an additional 3
million just transferred to it. When we initially
invested in AE's, we were told that they held the
ONLY loan on property, only loaned money on property
that they could sell for more than they loaned on it,
immediately started foreclosure on a property that
was delinquent in making payments, were currently
profitable and had been profitable forever. The
latest Hamstreet doc clearly shows a long standing
practice of deception to investors going back to at
least 2012. Check out that Colorado real estate that
somebody paid for, it could have been me with money
being sucked out of what ever fund had a cash
balance. What was it 90 properties they should have
foreclosed on?
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 3:39 PM Robert Paladeni
<rpaladeni@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I totally disagree with what you are saying, you
have a short sighted perspective and should voice it
else where.
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 1:56 PM Julia Pond
<juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I meant, “in the territory where the lack of
objectivity of the receiver works against us”.
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, at 1:53 PM, Julia Pond wrote:
Thanks Belinda. I signed up for the email alerts
and am getting the notifications. I read the
report and it is really sad.
Notice that Hamstreet dismisses our of hand the
possibility of getting anything out of banks,
title companies, etc.
Also, to me it is jaw-dropping that none of this
is considered criminal. Just how it looked at
first glance (like a Ponzi scheme) would have
prevented an ethical person from accepting the
engagement.
It is definitely in the territory where the lack
of objectivity of the receiver and his interest in
continued billings (he is getting paid, remember,
out of the income Ross and Maureen are still
making).
--
Julia Pond
juliapond@xxxxxxxxxxx
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019, at 12:34 PM, bfranke wrote:
Here is the link. It is on the Hamstreet home
page and there is a link to the pdf. This is not
under the documents that you have to put in a
password for.
I don’t know if everyone is getting these
notification emails So click the link below and
then the pdf on their home page.
Belinda
*From:* AEM Receiver - Hamstreet
[mailto:AEMReceiver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] ;
*Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2019 11:45 AM
*To:* bfranke@xxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Content has been updated on
aeminvestors.com
Homepage - has been updated with new content -
https://aeminvestors.com/.
