[adsi] Re: [them] Arctic ice cap oscillations have happened before

  • From: Milton Scritsmier <Milton_Scritsmier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: adsi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:50:02 -0700

How often do you actually watch Fox News? Or did before you gave up on them?

But that's why I included the JPL link since I figured you wouldn't give
Fox any credibility. :-)

Ken Schmahl, P.E. wrote:
> Fox news!  Well, I won't have to read the article then to believe 'em.
> Sorry, but Fox has lost its credibility.  I'll have to go back to the
> original studies to get the truth on this.
> To be clear, I'm bitter about Fox News, and not you Milt.
> ks
> On 11/16/07, *Milton Scritsmier* <Milton_Scritsmier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:Milton_Scritsmier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>     Once again, scientific results are coming in showing that the
>     interaction between the climate and mankind is not nearly so
>     simple as "An Inconvenient Truth" would have us believe. This
>     time it has to do with the shrinking of the arctic ice cap over
>     the last few decades (and by the way, how often do you hear
>     that the antarctic ice cap is now at a maximum?). According to
>     two independent scientific studies, it appears that the arctic
>     ice cap has gone through rapid periods of shrinking and
>     expanding over at least the last few hundred years, well before
>     mankind had any real effect on the climate.
>     For a quick overview of the first study, here is what Fox News
>     Channel's "Grapevine" on "Special Report with Brit Hume" had to
>     say:
>     ===
>     What NASA Says Is Really Happening to the Arctic Ice Cap
>     Friday, November 16, 2007
>     By Brit Hume
>     Fox News Channel
>     Perfectly Natural
>     Many global warming activists point to changes in the arctic
>     icecap as proof of the dangerous effects of man-made global
>     warming. Now a report from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory
>     says those changes are in fact the result of natural ocean
>     circulation patterns. A team of scientists used satellite and
>     deep-sea pressure gauge data to monitor ocean patterns.
>     Says team leader James Morison of the University of
>     Washington's Polar Science Center — "Our study confirms many
>     changes seen in upper Arctic Ocean circulation in the 1990s
>     were mostly decadal in nature, rather than trends caused by
>     global warming."
>     ===
>     The "Grapevine" report does leave out that Dr. Morison believes
>     that mankind-induced global warming is accelerating the
>     oscillations in the arctic ice cap. The JPL news release on Dr.
>     Morison's findings is at
>     http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-131
>     Significantly, another independent study also shows that the
>     arctic ice cap has gone through rapid oscillations. Dr. Simon
>     Belt and his team from the University of Plymouth in England
>     looked for a particular lipid produced by an algae that can
>     only live in sea ice. As this lipid is produced, it drifts down
>     to the ocean bottom and becomes embedded in the sediment. As
>     the sediment builds up over time, the amount of this lipid in
>     each layer of the sediment gives an indication of the amount of
>     algae at that time, and hence the amount of sea ice. By
>     collecting various "sediment cores" and measuring the lipid,
>     Dr. Belt and his team have found that the arctic ice cap has
>     varied greatly in the last several hundred years. Dr. Belt
>     believes that mankind's recent changes to the environment may
>     be making it harder for arctic ice to recover from its latest
>     retreat. But he also notes that "Significantly, periods of sea
>     ice cover frequently coincide with dramatic changes to human
>     populations due to famines and illnesses." In other words,
>     whether or not mankind is changing the climate, the climate
>     still has had a powerful effect on mankind.
>     A good article about Dr. Belt's research can be found at
>     http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7044808.stm
>     If you get HDNet on satellite or cable, check out this week's
>     "Dan Rather Reports" entitled "A Crack in the Ice". There's an
>     interview with Dr. Belt on the research vessel where he did his
>     study discussing his results and showing his team collecting
>     and analyzing sediment.

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