What constitutes «evidence» for one group of people does not
necessarily mean that it is considered «evidence» for another group of
people. Also, knowing what I know about Karmic-Law, I recommend that,
when it comes to any kind of «historic» (or even «scientific»)
references, one best proceed it with «According to [name of source or
source-reference]» ...especially given the fact that much of what is
called «history» has been lost, re-written, erased, over-written,
deleted, manipulated, obscured, muddied, over-layered, etc.
None of us was /personally there/ to witness the «history» before our
very own eyes after all. And «The Great Deception» is great indeed
(/such/ to the point that /most/ people on earth who /call/ themselves
«Christians» have also /fallen for/ the /same/ *deceptions* that have
even hood-winked the so-called elect). And I'm not even going to get
started on time-manipulation technology at this time (the literal
ability to over-write or change certain segments of history reminiscent
of literal time-machine/time-travel technology despite being depicted in
the movies as science-fiction).
Anybody who /isn't/ dogmatic or close-minded and is interested in
reading some «references to evidence about technologies that are
capable of altering reality... including various things that may have
happened throughout history» /may/ get a slightly better comprehension
of what I mean from the article written at the following link...
https://www.tokenrock.com/explain-scalar-wave-technology-77.html
Ultimately, I take NO «stock» in /any/ «history» from /any/ source,
for, one of the _major_ pre-requisites for /any/ «spirit» to
«escape» from on-going deceptions or ending up in «authoritarian»
realms is its ability to be able to «let go of any and all rigid
mental-constructs... whether be they religious or scientific» (i.e.:
basically, beware of dogmatic-tendencies, especially within one's own
self...)
On 2021-04-14 7:29 p.m., J_B wrote:
they certainly did and Mohammed is made up .. they did it with a catholic woman who told the guy who became to kown as the founder of Islam. training was done years in a cave before he magically came out.
On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 6:54 PM Chong Dan <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
there is evidence the Catholic Church created Islam to wipe out
fundamentalist Christianity, Muhammad's first wife, Kadeah lived
in a Catholic nunnery. How many Muslims know that?
On Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 09:33:06 PM EDT, Russell Lee
<russell.lee.2012@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:russell.lee.2012@xxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
The Council of Nicaea was a Roman Catholic council. Why would
any Christian look upon that as any godly authority when the RCC
was involved in the genocide of millions of Christians over a
period of several hundred years with the infamous Inquisition in
every country touched by the Roman Catholic empire? It's a
historical fact and all Catholic councils are rejected by God's
faithful. If you want to study that history, you can start with
the writings of John Foxe (FOXE'S BOOK OF MARTYRS ) who lived in
that hellish time in the 16th century.
https://www.ccel.org/f/foxe/martyrs/home.html
<https://www.ccel.org/f/foxe/martyrs/home.html>
As for the Apocrypha, the KJB translators knew that it wasn't
inspired scripture and kept it separated from the rest of God's
word. It was included in the early editions of the KJB because
Martin Luther, as many others felt, said, "Apocrypha — that is,
books which are not regarded as equal to the holy Scriptures, and
yet are profitable and good to read."
Because the Apocrypha was separated from what WAS known to be
inspired scriptures, it diminished not a whit from God's word.
In fact today, for the same reason that Martin Luther gave, you
will find all kinds of "bible aids" bound to the KJB such as maps,
concordances, dictionaries, and even commentary — none of which
are inspired, all are copyrighted (putting the KJB aids in
commerce), and none diminish anything from the word of God: the
/King James Bible/.
God considers His word most highly — it's tangible for tangible
people — and I do also. That's why He has blessed it and
preserved it forever.
Psalms 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise
thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for *_thou hast
magnified thy word above all thy name._*
Psalms 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver
tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, _*thou shalt preserve them*_
from this generation for ever.*_
_*
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 5:45 PM Ray Greninger
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
From Britannica, take it for what's it's worth:
https://www.britannica.com/topic/King-James-Version
<https://www.britannica.com/topic/King-James-Version>
Call Washington says the 1611 version is what the legal system
uses. So, there's that. It has been said that the KJV is not
only about translating the texts, but also about setting a
standard for the English language, much like Shakespeare did.
One cannot talk about the Bible without considering what was
done at the Council of Nicaea.
https://overviewbible.com/council-of-nicaea/
<https://overviewbible.com/council-of-nicaea/>
The books that were left out are called The Apocrypha and are
included in the 1611 version. So, is the Bible the word of God
or is it the word of God edited by man? So many questions.
On Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 11:15:02 AM MDT, Jb
<tf4624@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Someone here is missing something and sidetracking my respond.
You avoided my point
As for the your response here. King James didn’t have to an
authority of the language. He had folks that were appointed to
do such and also fixed the errors out of the other English
version and purposely left out notes that other bibles left in
such as the Geneva study Bible had It.� Didn’t want it to be
tainted with mans opinions. Let the reader be strictly
influenced by the words them selves. The only flaws in the
kjv 1611 that you find is actual flaws of man and not with the
book�
On Apr 13, 2021, at 8:21 AM, John Douglas
<jdminer2004@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:jdminer2004@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
* The Pilgrims arrived in 1620 and brought with them the
Geneva Bible, not the King James Bible. The KJV was
seen as the Bible of the English King and the state
Church of England which had been persecuting them. But by
the mid-1600s, the King James Bible was arriving in
the New World with the increasing flow of settlers.
https://digitalcommons.cedarville.edu/kjv_america/#:~:text=The%20Pilgrims%20arrived%20in%201620%20and%20brought%20with,New%20World%20with%20the%20increasing%20flow%20of%20settlers
<https://digitalcommons.cedarville.edu/kjv_america/#:~:text=The%20Pilgrims%20arrived%20in%201620%20and%20brought%20with,New%20World%20with%20the%20increasing%20flow%20of%20settlers>.
So it seems that a king named james was actually part of the
reason that our forefathers left england in the first place,
so to side with him is to side with the oppressors.
My 10th great grandfather was among those who left to come to
this new world, he landed in 1629 and I do believe that he
came here for freedom since he was indentured at the time of
his arrival and had to earn that freedom by working as a
slave for three years to become a freeman.
But my point is that king james was not a real authority on
the written language and there are many flaws in that version
if you take the time to study with an open mind you will see
for yourself.
And I wholeheartedly agree with charley dan, we must allow
the one true spirit to guide us in our studies.
the path i follow is the one that leads to freedom, not
oppression, that seems to be the path less followed, the
narrow path, and i believe it leads to the throne of justice
where my king resides.
not A king, THE king.
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 12:28 AM Charley Dan
<charleydan@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:charleydan@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I still stand on my concordance and netbible translation
as it tells the issues in the translation and you decide.
I also trust the creator of that book to make sure I
understand it. Not many are allowed in the Vatican to
read the oldest texts discovered but netbible scholars
did. Every man their opinion
On Apr 12, 2021, 7:10 PM -0600, J_B <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>>, wrote:
yes i can agree its possible to get saved in some other
bibles but not all. They do remove the blood in the
perversion or other things that make it false. SO i
rather not steer them with the wrong bible when getting
them saved or show them how to and ultimately they make
the decision. I can plant the seed.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 7:02 PM Charley Dan
<charleydan@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:charleydan@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I've met many people saved, born again, redeemed by
the blood that read other Bibles. Just read it and
it will change your life. It is the living word. For
the 85% in the evangelical church pews that do not
believe in the resurrection, Jesus is Son of God,
that the Bible is the word of God, or in the
beginning. Preachers need to use more scriptures in
their sermons to change the heart of man and man
needs to read. Man of the flesh will change to a man
of the spirit, Holy Spirit convicted. For the fruit
of the spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering,
gentleness, meekness, kindness, peace, missing one
and some say four. Against such their is no law.
When one demands a certain Bible or any thing. Shows
their attitude they are God or want-to-be. Just put
the scripture truths out there and God will water.
That is the reason the forefathers said this nation
is a Christian nation and made for Christians,
Spirit filled. The rest need tyranny a government to
control them. �
On Apr 12, 2021, 2:32 PM -0600, Jb <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>>, wrote:
Seriously stop climbing to that physco babble BS of
a book like it some security blanket. Read the
opening of that book and then copy write section
after at the front of book of discipline.� They
give them selves, man to make or adjust what is
right or wrong or considered unconstitutional.� Now
go to copywriter section. It states all the Bible
quotes come from the common English version. You
do realize it’s not a “church” you belong
to?� Biblical that is. What you have here is a
society without saying it plainly. Which means they
have rule of man to govern you. And you ain’t
welcomed. Point is an actual church. Wouldn’t
need such trash. It’s rather simple. The Bible is
the authority and not just any. It needs to be a
KJV 1611 authorized version. If there so called
rules in that book don’t match the Bible then
it’s wrong and it’s of man and not god. They
got one big x for me with the Bible quotes which
come from A corrupt version translations. All new
Bible versions are based on a Greek Text compiled
by Wescott and Hort, who were heretics and based
their Text on about 45 manuscripts that are of the
Alexandrian family, which means they came from
Egypt. The Scriptures have nothing positive to say
about Egypt, in fact it is to the contrary. The
Philo School of Theology also called the
Alexandrian School, in the second and third
century, a source of heresies (Gnosticism,
Arianism, and pagan philosophy) which in turn had
to be the source of the corrupted texts that came
from that area, primarily known as the Vanicanus
and Sinaiticus manuscripts.
Please join. A real congregation that follow the
actual bible and meet together .
On Apr 12, 2021, at 12:26 PM, NELSON DICE
<nelsondice@xxxxxxxx <mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
yes.� all known actors. local police have body
cam footage of entire event.
the big problem is the bishops and pastors have
diminished the authority of the BOOK OF
DISCIPLINE, our international by-laws. The New
Jersey Legislature specifically names the BOD as
the law that Methodist churches must follow about
property and membership.
once the people of the United Methodists return to
the tenets of the BOD, and learn to follow them,
we will be straightened out.
Methodists have three branches of Govt. The
bishops have seized the executive branch and have
used the State military force to impose their will
like Roman Catholicism over the ppl.�
Uncanny how this is mirroring the tactics used by
the defacto state takeover scheme of D.C. that we
are all learning to overcome.
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*Subject:* [administrating-your-public-servants]
Re: Update on church trespassing today
�
7 blocks eh .. did you get their names and photos?
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 9:56 PM NELSON DICE
<nelsondice@xxxxxxxx <mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>>
wrote:
Cops still there.�
Did not block this time.
Trustees signed private complaint yesterday
for last Sunday.� Goes to municipal judge for
a finding of probable cause. Will see.
Trustees today convinced new young patrolman
to sign a witness statement of trespass.
I advised him he was risking s year in jail
for perjury of oath and official misconduct
after I read him Article I Paragraph 3 from
the New Jersey Constitution and reminded him
he is sworn to support my privilege.
Ended with me making it all the way to top of
steps where 7 people blocked my entrance.
See them next Sunday, same Bat time.