King James I had nothing to do in the translation of the bible that bears
his name. He had commissioned 54 established learned men of God to
*publicly* (transparent) translate the Scriptures in order to unite the
English people who were divided over the two primary English translations
of the time — the Bishops’ Bible and the Geneva translation. The resulting
King James Bible is a public bible paid for with public monies.
http://www.biblebc.com/Christian_Helps/BibleVersions/translators_of_the_king_james_bi.htm
Counterfeit bibles produced since the KJB was published and publicized are
all produced behind closed doors — no transparency — and *copyrighted* for
commercial profit.
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that *no prophecy of the scripture is of
any private interpretation*.
21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men
of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
People foolishly argue continuously about "the originals" and "the Greek."
Originals didn't exist for long. Every original was handwritten which wore
out from use and age. Copies were laboriously handwritten as well which
also wore out eventually when new copies were again laboriously
handwritten. There was no printing press convenience.
As for "the Greek," there were at least 24 different Greek texts. It's
ignorant to argue about "the Greek."
Even in Paul's day, who was closer to "the originals" than anyone today,
there were infidels and philosophers who were corrupting the Scriptures to
fit their narrative. Why would anyone think that scholars today, who are
over 400 years removed from King James' scholars, are better qualified to
sort out the corruption that was definitely there?
2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not as *many, which corrupt the word of God*:
but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 8:20 AM John Douglas <jdminer2004@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
- The Pilgrims arrived in 1620 and brought with them the Geneva Bible,
not the King James Bible. The KJV was seen as the Bible of the English King
and the state Church of England which had been persecuting them. But by the
mid-1600s, the King James Bible was arriving in the New World with the
increasing flow of settlers.
https://digitalcommons.cedarville.edu/kjv_america/#:~:text=The%20Pilgrims%20arrived%20in%201620%20and%20brought%20with,New%20World%20with%20the%20increasing%20flow%20of%20settlers
.
So it seems that a king named james was actually part of the reason that
our forefathers left england in the first place, so to side with him is to
side with the oppressors.
My 10th great grandfather was among those who left to come to this new
world, he landed in 1629 and I do believe that he came here for freedom
since he was indentured at the time of his arrival and had to earn that
freedom by working as a slave for three years to become a freeman.
But my point is that king james was not a real authority on the written
language and there are many flaws in that version if you take the time to
study with an open mind you will see for yourself.
And I wholeheartedly agree with charley dan, we must allow the one true
spirit to guide us in our studies.
the path i follow is the one that leads to freedom, not oppression, that
seems to be the path less followed, the narrow path, and i believe it leads
to the throne of justice where my king resides.
not A king, THE king.
On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 12:28 AM Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I still stand on my concordance and netbible translation as it tells the
issues in the translation and you decide. I also trust the creator of that
book to make sure I understand it. Not many are allowed in the Vatican to
read the oldest texts discovered but netbible scholars did. Every man their
opinion
On Apr 12, 2021, 7:10 PM -0600, J_B <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>, wrote:
yes i can agree its possible to get saved in some other bibles but not
all. They do remove the blood in the perversion or other things that make
it false. SO i rather not steer them with the wrong bible when getting
them saved or show them how to and ultimately they make the decision. I can
plant the seed.
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 7:02 PM Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I've met many people saved, born again, redeemed by the blood that read
other Bibles. Just read it and it will change your life. It is the living
word. For the 85% in the evangelical church pews that do not believe in the
resurrection, Jesus is Son of God, that the Bible is the word of God, or in
the beginning. Preachers need to use more scriptures in their sermons to
change the heart of man and man needs to read. Man of the flesh will change
to a man of the spirit, Holy Spirit convicted. For the fruit of the spirit
is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, meekness, kindness, peace,
missing one and some say four. Against such their is no law. When one
demands a certain Bible or any thing. Shows their attitude they are God or
want-to-be. Just put the scripture truths out there and God will water.
That is the reason the forefathers said this nation is a Christian nation
and made for Christians, Spirit filled. The rest need tyranny a government
to control them.
On Apr 12, 2021, 2:32 PM -0600, Jb <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>, wrote:
Seriously stop climbing to that physco babble BS of a book like it some
security blanket. Read the opening of that book and then copy write section
after at the front of book of discipline. They give them selves, man to
make or adjust what is right or wrong or considered unconstitutional. Now
go to copywriter section. It states all the Bible quotes come from the
common English version. You do realize it’s not a “church” you belong to?
Biblical that is. What you have here is a society without saying it
plainly. Which means they have rule of man to govern you. And you ain’t
welcomed. Point is an actual church. Wouldn’t need such trash. It’s rather
simple. The Bible is the authority and not just any. It needs to be a KJV
1611 authorized version. If there so called rules in that book don’t match
the Bible then it’s wrong and it’s of man and not god. They got one big x
for me with the Bible quotes which come from A corrupt version
translations. All new Bible versions are based on a Greek Text compiled by
Wescott and Hort, who were heretics and based their Text on about 45
manuscripts that are of the Alexandrian family, which means they came from
Egypt. The Scriptures have nothing positive to say about Egypt, in fact it
is to the contrary. The Philo School of Theology also called the
Alexandrian School, in the second and third century, a source of heresies
(Gnosticism, Arianism, and pagan philosophy) which in turn had to be the
source of the corrupted texts that came from that area, primarily known as
the Vanicanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts.
Please join. A real congregation that follow the actual bible and meet
together .
On Apr 12, 2021, at 12:26 PM, NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
yes. all known actors. local police have body cam footage of entire
event.
the big problem is the bishops and pastors have diminished the authority
of the BOOK OF DISCIPLINE, our international by-laws. The New Jersey
Legislature specifically names the BOD as the law that Methodist churches
must follow about property and membership.
once the people of the United Methodists return to the tenets of the
BOD, and learn to follow them, we will be straightened out.
Methodists have three branches of Govt. The bishops have seized the
executive branch and have used the State military force to impose their
will like Roman Catholicism over the ppl.
Uncanny how this is mirroring the tactics used by the defacto state
takeover scheme of D.C. that we are all learning to overcome.
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*From:* administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
J_B <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Sunday, April 11, 2021 10:39 PM
*To:* administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: Update on church
trespassing today
7 blocks eh .. did you get their names and photos?
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 9:56 PM NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Cops still there.
Did not block this time.
Trustees signed private complaint yesterday for last Sunday. Goes to
municipal judge for a finding of probable cause. Will see.
Trustees today convinced new young patrolman to sign a witness statement
of trespass.
I advised him he was risking s year in jail for perjury of oath and
official misconduct after I read him Article I Paragraph 3 from the New
Jersey Constitution and reminded him he is sworn to support my privilege.
Ended with me making it all the way to top of steps where 7 people
blocked my entrance.
See them next Sunday, same Bat time.
