"whatever, they will arrest you" ? they would go and get an affidavid of
supposed harm and have a judge get a warrant for failure to show up for a
ticket in person if you didnt answer it via a Whit? even if one is to
claim lack of Jurisdiction? i do know what color of law is in general i was
just pointing out that i wanted more clarification on "actual warrant" vs "
Capias" * sorry if didnt plainly put that in words. opps
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 5:13 PM Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Whatever, they will arrest you. Sometimes they will come for you
immediately. Other times they will wait till the next time they happen to
encounter you and it shows up on the computer. In Colorado right now they
give tickets and not so quick on arrests because the jails are full.
What is color of law? Everything they do is color of law if your not in
their jurisdiction. As a state national they need to present to you and
affadavit of harm you did to the man making the claim. Plus a warrant from
a judge who granted it. Most of them would come because you were sent an
affadavit signed by a man staying how you harmed him. Or a court date and
did not show up..
On Feb 25, 2021, 2:51 PM -0700, J_B <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>, wrote:
based on the following said from Winningham Fearn
" I guarantee you that their statutes will say that a Warrant is a paper
in writing that is signed by a Judge, therefore what they are telling you
is that it is a capias and they are calling it a warrant. That is a color
of law warrant, and that is a felony for them to violate your rights under
the color of law"
then someone explain to me what an actual "warrant" is then if from what i
read above capias seems to be different? and how we tll the difference for
example if you dont show up to court for a ticket/citation whatever the
excuse may be. As it says there might be a warrant put out depending on
what the judge would do *this is on the back of the ticket. Now other
thing to note is if you answer the ticket before the court date via a Whit
and still dont show up is it legal for them to put a warrant for failure to
appear *(yes i now it depends what you put on the Whit such as invalidating
their jurisdiction to begin with) I guess im poking at the notion of if the
judge wants to strong hand you to see if they can get away with it;
certainly they could but would they for small stuff such as speeding ticket
.. move over law ticket, parking ticket, things which dont involve injury
or so-called federal offenses.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 6:34 PM Winningham Fearn <winfearn@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I guarantee you that their statutes will say that a Warrant is a paper in
writing that is signed by a Judge, therefore what they are telling you is
that it is a capias and they are calling it a warrant.
That is a color of law warrant, and that is a felony for them to violate
your rights under the color of law
Best Regards,
Win
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 5:25 PM jonbondo@xxxxxxxxx <jonbondo@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Oh yeah..thanks soo much! !!
I asked for a copy of the warrants and court said there is no paper
copy in existance. this was long ago.. i was going to see if they were
legally done....(anyway).. but there is a Warrant list. on the City
website.... I can check there and see if they disappear.. I doubt they
will write me....in the ALL CAPS NAME...which i have returned that
mail.... in the past. All i have tried before has failed....and its been
alot. I'll let you all know...
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 3:53 PM Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Jonbondo
Recently a fellow had the same situation. That is outstanding traffic
warrants in Colorado and new Mexico. He sent to the court clerk where they
were created "article 1, section 8, clause 17 I'm not an United States
Citizen and I (your name) a state national. They disappeared. After sending
letter one can wait a few weeks and usually the court will tell you if
there is a warrant exists. The reason for this is that your stating the
jurisdiction your in. Jurisdiction can be challenged at anytime. Even after
conviction.
On Feb 24, 2021, 3:38 PM -0700, jonbondo@xxxxxxxxx <jonbondo@xxxxxxxxx>,
wrote:
after i posted i got this same .... message from tiajoli@phillipshq
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 3:09 PM jonbondo@xxxxxxxxx <jonbondo@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Charley
what can one do about old tickets..in which the the judgements were
guilty and there have been warrants out for several years..?? i do not
want to pay.. (thousands) Is there any recourse?
crooked judge and got sandbagged and steamrolled .. they want no
one off the plantation... and their hands on that cash. Its *their*
court.. but i would very much like these cleared off the record...
all
at the same municipal court.
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 9:12 AM Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Vinner
The passport jurisdiction of Canada, and other places would apply in
that jurisdiction and agreements they have with United States
jurisdicton.
We know diplomats of other jurisdictions give leniency or revised rules.
Most are required a driver's license. So I doubt it would work.
Mike, Fred, Roy, and J_B
To understand judges watch other sovereign you tuners in court. One
of my favorites are Marc Stevens. His approach is show me the
constitution
applies to his client. The answer from judge is this is an administrative
court and constitution does not apply. The judge goes on to state. Give
me
the evidence. To which Stevens always tells the judge the prosecutor must
prove. To me this is an circular argument and one will lose because it's
the prosecutor holding a administrative court before the judge.
Your sent a notice and demand (citation) to come to their
administrative court. That administrative court is for legislative law
and
their government courts. Municipal court to supreme court are
administrative to settle Government issues.
We all can read the bill of rights and realize and know there is
common law, admirality law, maritime law and some speciality laws as
military law.
To me the question is how to switch the admirality administrative
court to common law court. Can we switch the court? I believe one can and
as I study this more and more or all points to article 1, section 8,
clause17 as it shows the limitations of that admirality legislative
court.
It does not state what court your in but that your not in theirs. That is
all that really matters anyhow.
Someone posted this on this forum which I believe is When National
constitutionality comes before the judge. He must honor due process of
law
or lose his bonding. This is handled by the internal functions of the
corporation and bonding company.
5.4 - Bonding of Judges
A judge shall lose his bonding, shall not be bonded, and shall be
deemed unbondable:
1. if he fails to protect the U.S, national constitutionally
guaranteed remedies of due process and the equal protection of the laws
of
any citizen appearing in his court of law, or of any citizen appearing in
any court of the county in which he works whose case may come to his
attention by any means.
Without a bond. One cannot hold a valid court. Will say this is what
I'm finding that works. Just more information keeps coming forth that
seems
to validate the idea.
Again if one uses their court cases. They are still in their
administrative court. I'm going to keep using article 1817 and that I'm
not
an United Stars Citizen but a state national. I'm trying to find a way to
settle compensation outside the court. A friend was given a document that
comes from state battorney general in Colorado with a different address
to
settle claims against officers or employees that have caused harm. I
assume
every state has this.
The attorney general sends it to insurance to review and settle. That
sounds more common law to me. We settle with individual or their
insurance. Will see.
On Feb 23, 2021, 10:09 PM -0700, Roy Vinner <littlefilbert@xxxxxxxxx>,
wrote:
Charley,
I wonder whether a foreign passport will work as well instead of a
State national passport? A Canadian or a European passport, perhaps?
On 2/21/2021 9:26 PM, Charley Dan wrote:
J_B
Proof? Well I've told close to eighteen now and Worked perfectly. So
they say.
When I got stopped here is my experience. I gave my normal passport.
He gave me a ticket.
I sent to the court as I told you. Two days after court hearing the
judges personal clerk sent me a note saying a live warrant was issued and
then offered me two court dates a month away. I sent back the same note
of
article 1817 and I'm a national. Four business days later I called the
court and no warrant to be found.
I'm filing with the court for recompense. I've not had luck with
remedy though.
Proof beyond that? "If you cannot take a man's word. Then it's not
worth listening to him." The Constitution is the SupRene law (article 6)
of
the land and article 1, section 8, clause 17 states the limited
jurisdicton
of the United States.
