[administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds are lawful money perhaps

  • From: NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: "administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2021 16:43:50 +0000

J.B.,Thank you.

very helpful and awesome new info.!


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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds are 
lawful money perhaps

On April 1, 1792, Congress authorizes the striking of gold coins. The dollar is 
defined as 24.75 grains of pure gold or $19.39 per troy ounce (480 grains [a 
troy ounce] divided by 24.75=19.39)

1834 – The gold content of the Eagle ($10 gold) is reduced from 247.5 grains to 
23.2 grains, due to the melting of U.S. gold coins in 
Europe<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcoinsite.com%2Fwhat-happened-to-all-the-early-u-s-coins%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf433ad6357f54491919708d97b0fb10e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637676129617922436%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=bdjeRmx%2FCSHL5MdyLl2eFRWMudAdT2ezkpGyNGxvjtI%3D&reserved=0>,
 raising the price of gold to $20.67. The “dollar” (there were no gold 
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 coins until 1849) =23.2 grains of pure gold. To confirm this standard, the 
Gold Standard Act of 1900 defines a “dollar” as 25.8 grains of .900 fine gold 
or 23.2 grains of pure gold. This dollar, call it Dollar #1 (D-1), isn’t 
redeemable for gold, it IS gold, since the United States Congress defines the 
dollar as a specific quantity of gold. Persons who hold U.S. currency, or who 
have deposits in U.S. banks can immediately convert these instruments into gold 
in the form of coins.

In 1934, President Roosevelt, attempts to bring the United States out of a 
economic Depression by devaluing the dollar from 23.2 grains to 13.71 grains of 
pure gold, essentially devaluing the dollar by 41%. This raises the official 
price of gold to $35 per troy ounce. This is Dollar #2 (D-2). In addition, the 
Presidential decree prohibits U.S. citizens who hold deposits, from converting 
their dollars into D-2 dollars. In the 1950’s, President Eisenhower extends the 
prohibition to U.S. citizen’s gold holdings outside the United States. D-2 
claims are still honored to foreign institutions; therefore the U.S. standard 
of value is still gold.

  *   1971 – President Nixon declares that the U.S. Treasury would no longer 
pay D-2 dollars in exchange for dollar claims. Gold is soaring in Europe.

  *   1971 – Only Federal Reserve Notes are printed. The obligation, the 
promise to pay, is removed from the notes. Though the term “note” implies a 
promise to pay something, Federal Reserve Notes now represent nothing. Today’s 
dollar is completely fiat money.

  *   1973 – Congress creates Dollar #3, 12.63 grains of pure gold and in 1974, 
Dollar #4, 11.37 grains of pure gold. Both D-3 and D-4 are fictional as no gold 
coins are coined, nor is any gold available to pay dollar claims.

On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 8:37 PM NELSON DICE 
<nelsondice@xxxxxxxx<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
JB stated a dollar today has a value of $21.

Is a lawful money dollar 371+ grains of silver?
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<administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
 on behalf of Mike P <mike_p_5@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mike_p_5@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2021 8:32 PM
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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds are 
lawful money perhaps

And what does this have to do with the current discussion?

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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds are 
lawful money perhaps

Hmm...

Someone sent me this...one dollar lawful money 371+ grains pure silver

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 on behalf of Mike P <mike_p_5@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:mike_p_5@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds are 
lawful money perhaps

NO....18usc8

The term “obligation or other security of the United 
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 notes, Treasury notes, gold certificates, silver certificates, fractional 
notes, certificates of deposit, bills, checks, or drafts for money, drawn by or 
upon authorized officers of the United 
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 stamps and other representatives of value, of whatever denomination, issued 
under any Act of Congress, and canceled United States 
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 stamps.

Again...think about WHAT they are and WHO issues them for WHAT purpose...then 
you need to find the appropriate USC title and section.

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 on behalf of NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>>
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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] T-Notes and.T-Bonds are lawful 
money perhaps

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