[administrating-your-public-servants] Re: Independence hall - Philadelpha...

  • From: Misty Harland <mistyharland75@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 16:12:01 -0500

why is it written democracy everywhere when this is not a democracy it is a
republic?! I believe theyve gone back and changed it on alot of original
writings from the founding fathers too.


On Sat, Sep 18, 2021 at 9:10 PM Mike P <mike_p_5@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

As someone who used to live in Bucks County PA - IH is NOT owned by the
feds as indicated at this site

Independence Hall - UNESCO World Heritage Centre
<https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/78>
<https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/78>
Independence Hall - UNESCO World Heritage Centre
<https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/78>
The Declaration of Independence (1776) and the Constitution of the United
States (1787) were both signed in this building in Philadelphia. The
universal principles of freedom and democracy set forth in these documents
are of fundamental importance to American history and have also had a
profound ...
whc.unesco.org
"Independence Hall is owned by the City of Philadelphia and administered
by the National Park Service as a part of Independence National Historical
Park under a formal agreement with the City. The 1948 law creating the
National Park has as its express purpose the preservation of the historic
structures. Inclusion of Independence Hall in the National Park system
gives it the highest possible level of protection, as it is maintained by
the federal government. Furthermore, as the country’s most important
historical site, its preservation will always be of paramount importance,
and periodic work is undertaken to further protect it."

I have heard rumors of which you speak but it is not true...also I have
heard that the PA Supreme Court is superior to the USSC...also untrue to
the best of my knowledge.

The federal govt NEVER owned any land until the 10 miles square was set up
on paper and even then, Virginia welched on her end of the deal and never
turned over her land.  Today however you can find land that was both ceded
by the state to the feds or the feds rent the land and enjoy joint
jurisdiction over it with the state....I believe some of our army posts are
in this situtation....

I have read of a case where a highway runs through federal land and state
had joint jurisdiction with the feds.  A driver got a ticket and the
attorney fighting it was smart or clever enough to claim that the OTHER
party should claim jurisdiction over the "offense" due to something or
other and did the same with the OTHER jurisdictional entity...long story
short...neither jurisdiction prosecuted the case. Such a jurisdictional
"issue" no longer occurs due to newer guidelines.  Smart attorney!!!

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*From:* administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2021 8:46 PM
*To:* Administrating-Your-Public-Servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds
are lawful money perhaps

Will do. Will research true jurisdiction of existing land beforehand.
1:8;17 has land been ceded by state to fed govt?

Phila is 10 Independence hall.

If is fed land, might mean Philadelphia is seat of The United States of
America
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*From:* administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
Mike P <mike_p_5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2021 9:40 PM
*To:* Administrating-Your-Public-Servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds
are lawful money perhaps

Be careful when you do that..... read up on the LEU Boston...Local PO and
Feds have no jurisdiction I betcha!! (unless they are requested by the LEU
itself)

Law Enforcement - Federal Reserve Bank of Boston (bostonfed.org)
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Law Enforcement - Federal Reserve Bank of Boston
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LEU comprises sworn Federal Reserve Law Enforcement Officers and support
personnel. All sworn officers have received nationally accredited training
as prescribed by the Federal Reserve’s Board of Governors and the United
States Department of Justice.
www.bostonfed.org


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*From:* administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2021 8:37 PM
*To:* Administrating-Your-Public-Servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds
are lawful money perhaps

Don't think Con states what one dollar is.

My plan may be to summon law enforcement if denied entry and get the
incident in paper and video

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*From:* administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
Mike P <mike_p_5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2021 8:57 PM
*To:* Administrating-Your-Public-Servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds
are lawful money perhaps

He NEVER indicated WHAT "dollar" he is talking about, if I remember
correctly... silver, gold or FRn.  So from his perspective not a clue BUT
the Constitution states exactly what ONE Constitutional Dollar is.....and
that it would be in "grains" of silver or gold and that is the "legal"
money... while "lawful" money is the FRn's - being lawful does not make one
legal..... am I stating this correctly...or is it the opposite?

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*From:* administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2021 7:37 PM
*To:* Administrating-Your-Public-Servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds
are lawful money perhaps

JB stated a dollar today has a value of $21.

Is a lawful money dollar 371+ grains of silver?
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*From:* administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
Mike P <mike_p_5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2021 8:32 PM
*To:* Administrating-Your-Public-Servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds
are lawful money perhaps

And what does this have to do with the current discussion?

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*From:* administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2021 7:29 PM
*To:* Administrating-Your-Public-Servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds
are lawful money perhaps

Hmm...

Someone sent me this...one dollar lawful money 371+ grains pure silver

http://jpatton.bellevue.edu/bottomline/dollar.html
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*From:* administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
Mike P <mike_p_5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2021 7:39 PM
*To:* Administrating-Your-Public-Servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: T-Notes and.T-Bonds
are lawful money perhaps

NO....18usc8

The term “obligation or other security of the United States
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.law.cornell.edu%2Fdefinitions%2Fuscode.php%3Fwidth%3D840%26height%3D800%26iframe%3Dtrue%26def_id%3D18-USC-118361372-1912303257%26term_occur%3D999%26term_src%3Dtitle%3A18%3Apart%3AI%3Achapter%3A1%3Asection%3A8&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3c5aafd3fafa4d6dd27a08d97b0e8825%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637676124628075043%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=te0RfhjISTiyHw%2BCQtbr5Xfgr%2B0jfRDogt6r7JVduD8%3D&reserved=0>”
includes all bonds, certificates of indebtedness, national bank currency,
Federal Reserve notes, Federal Reserve bank notes, coupons, United States
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notes, Treasury notes, gold certificates, silver certificates, fractional
notes, certificates of deposit, bills, checks, or drafts for money, drawn
by or upon authorized officers of the United States,
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 stamps and other representatives of value, of whatever denomination,
issued under any Act of Congress, and canceled United States
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stamps.

Again...think about WHAT they are and WHO issues them for WHAT
purpose...then you need to find the appropriate USC title and section.

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*From:* administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2021 6:27 PM
*To:* Administrating-Your-Public-Servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <
administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [administrating-your-public-servants] T-Notes and.T-Bonds are
lawful money perhaps

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lawfulmoney.asp

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