I prefer Bible. Net which can come in hard back. It explains why the
interpreters favor an interpretation and you decide for yourself.
On Apr 4, 2021, 9:48 AM -0600, Jb <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>, wrote:
One can not serve two masters. That should answer it. No to the state. Yes
to God of the kjv 1611
On Apr 4, 2021, at 10:28 AM, NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
My current view is a believer doesn't need to swear to the truth of his
statements in order for others to believe him
Oaths after Christ may be for liars.
My understanding was that many early Christians who refused to take swear
allegiance to Caesar when demanded would be executed.
Can one have allegiance to God and to the State?
Maybe temporary allegiance, under God.
Right now, I have made a promise to support the work of Christ via the
United Methodist Church.
Our Book of Discipline allows a swearing or affirmation before a magistrate
ina cause of truth.
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God himself. Took an oath when he cut the calf in half and walked between
it with Abraham.
On Apr 4, 2021, 4:10 AM -0600, Justin Ross <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
wrote:
I'm not a Bible scholar either, but I just want to put this out there
because I have often heard that Christians are not supposed to swear
oaths, yet if you take the phrase "swear not at all" to mean what it
sounds like, it creates contradictions with the rest of the Bible. In
Deuteronomy 6 & 10, God says to swear oaths in His name. If you read
Zechariah 5:3-4, you can tell that the sin of "swearing" is talking about
falsely, not all swearing. If Jesus is the son of God, it doesn't make
sense for him nullify what his Father said, especially when he's talking
to Pharisees who swear by other objects to avoid the obligation to tell
the truth. He is saying let your yes always mean yes and your no always
mean no, not that you can't take an oath. It should be "swear not at all
falsely" or the like.
On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 2:44:03 PM PDT, Paul M
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Not being a biblical scholar, I can not quote the Chapter or verse that
says No Not give an oath to any King, Prince or potentate - so swearing
on a Bible is a violation of principal
On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 5:03:04 AM CDT, Jb <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Fallacy churches are not to have branches like government. Non biblical.
Church isn’t a building either
On Apr 2, 2021, at 10:51 PM, Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Dice
If the church has three branches. I wonder if presenting to the committee
your free as God is your law and authority to answer for and are they
gong to require you to disobey God.
On Apr 2, 2021, 1:27 PM -0600, J_B <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>, wrote:
and the term SUE didnt cross your mind? hope you had witnesses and they
can do an affidavit along with if you filmed it and cited their names
and or got them to say their names on camera.
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 11:21 AM NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
I do wear a Halloween costume to services though. Fyi.
As free speech, since my clergy in my area are acting like common
criminals in Fraud and Deceit and when I attempted to address within
the rules of The Methodist byLaws, the BOOK OF DISCIPLINE, I was
accused and arrested 2 times without due process.
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It is a free country for some.
Truth is what sets ppl free.
Yes, publish anywhere u wish.
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What have we come to when a church has lawyers threatening its
parishioners with trespass
if they come to the church to celebrate Easter?
Those were my thoughts.
Thank you for your time.
In Liberty,
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot
On Thursday, April 1, 2021, 6:30:05 PM CDT, J_B <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
that word document is laughable.
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wrote:
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Subject: Fw: St. Peter's United Methodist Church
Hello City Council,
Lord willing, i will be on the front sidewalk of St. Peter's this
Sunday morning at around ten-thirty o'clock to observe, and then i
will attempt to enter at approximately five minutes to eleven
o'clock to "worship Almighty God according to the dictates of my
own conscience".
i am a Member in Good Standing of the United Methodist Church under
the laws and Constitution of the State of New Jersey and the Bill
of Rights in Amendment to this Constitution for the united States
of America and there is no lawful order existing preventing me from
doing so. This is a civil matter and St. Peter's has always
possessed the Right to pursue a Civil Remedy at the Superior Court
if they wished to sue for an Injunction to see if any lawful
authority exists to ban me is justified. No such Suit has ever
been filed.
i will be wearing my lawful and legal striped-prison-uniform in a
peaceable manner and will be unarmed and not a threat to the peace
and safety of my fellow worshippers or to the Public.
The Council represents the People, and its powers and authority are
designed to be a counterweight to any oppressive Executive and
Judicial overreach.
i repeat my recent statement that if i am prevented from entering
by Force of Arms of one or more municipal officers that are sworn
and subscribed "to support the aforementioned Constitutions under
the authority of the people", then i expect the City Council to
fire Chief John Prettyman and the City Solicitor Dottie McCrosson
for cause by Resolution since Prettyman and McCrosson are also now
lawfully "sworn-and-subscribed" to "support" the laws and
Constitution of the State of New Jersey and the Bill of Rights in
Amendment to this Constitution for the united States of America.
This will be one more Crime to add to the long list of Crimes
committed against four members of the Dice family thus far by
public servants and employees for the past seven years, while
"supposedly-sworn-and-subscribed" members of the New Jersey BAR
attorneys-at-law and "supposedly-sworn-and-subscribed" New Jersey
BAR judges permit an unabated scheme to continue of protecting
multiple public servants and employees of the City of Ocean City
Municipal Corporation, granting those public servants and employees
the privilege of abusing their powers and authority to Govern and
the privilege to commit crimes against peaceful members of society,
with few apparent repercussions to date in a successful effort to
benefit both their business cronies and a plethora of highly-paid
fellow public servants and employees which are paid with city tax
revenues.
best regards,
nelson
a foreign sovereign on the land circa 1719 and descendant of at
least three documented members that served in the American
Revolutionary Army in the struggle against Tyranny.
From: Melissa Decker <mdecker@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 4:43 PM
To: nelsondice@xxxxxxxx <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: St. Peter's United Methodist Church
Good afternoon:
Attached please find correspondence from Mr. Flower.
Regards,
Melissa
Assistant to Willis F. Flower, Esquire
Ford, Flower, Hasbrouck & Loefflad
Central Square, Suite 42A
Box 405
Linwood, NJ 08221
609-653-1500
Fax: 609-653-8887
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