In court no one needs to swear by God as my judge. But to swear that God help
me tell the truth is a prayer.
On Apr 4, 2021, 8:26 AM -0600, NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>, wrote:
My current view is a believer doesn't need to swear to the truth of his
statements in order for others to believe him
Oaths after Christ may be for liars.
My understanding was that many early Christians who refused to take swear
allegiance to Caesar when demanded would be executed.
Can one have allegiance to God and to the State?
Maybe temporary allegiance, under God.
Right now, I have made a promise to support the work of Christ via the
United Methodist Church.
Our Book of Discipline allows a swearing or affirmation before a magistrate
ina cause of truth.
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God himself. Took an oath when he cut the calf in half and walked between it
with Abraham.
On Apr 4, 2021, 4:10 AM -0600, Justin Ross <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
wrote:
I'm not a Bible scholar either, but I just want to put this out there
because I have often heard that Christians are not supposed to swear oaths,
yet if you take the phrase "swear not at all" to mean what it sounds like,
it creates contradictions with the rest of the Bible. In Deuteronomy 6 &
10, God says to swear oaths in His name. If you read Zechariah 5:3-4, you
can tell that the sin of "swearing" is talking about falsely, not all
swearing. If Jesus is the son of God, it doesn't make sense for him
nullify what his Father said, especially when he's talking to Pharisees who
swear by other objects to avoid the obligation to tell the truth. He is
saying let your yes always mean yes and your no always mean no, not that
you can't take an oath. It should be "swear not at all falsely" or the
like.
On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 2:44:03 PM PDT, Paul M
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Not being a biblical scholar, I can not quote the Chapter or verse that
says No Not give an oath to any King, Prince or potentate - so swearing on
a Bible is a violation of principal
On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 5:03:04 AM CDT, Jb <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Fallacy churches are not to have branches like government. Non biblical.
Church isn’t a building either
On Apr 2, 2021, at 10:51 PM, Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Dice
If the church has three branches. I wonder if presenting to the committee
your free as God is your law and authority to answer for and are they gong
to require you to disobey God.
On Apr 2, 2021, 1:27 PM -0600, J_B <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>, wrote:
and the term SUE didnt cross your mind? hope you had witnesses and they
can do an affidavit along with if you filmed it and cited their names and
or got them to say their names on camera.
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 11:21 AM NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
I do wear a Halloween costume to services though. Fyi.
As free speech, since my clergy in my area are acting like common
criminals in Fraud and Deceit and when I attempted to address within
the rules of The Methodist byLaws, the BOOK OF DISCIPLINE, I was
accused and arrested 2 times without due process.
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It is a free country for some.
Truth is what sets ppl free.
Yes, publish anywhere u wish.
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What have we come to when a church has lawyers threatening its
parishioners with trespass
if they come to the church to celebrate Easter?
Those were my thoughts.
Thank you for your time.
In Liberty,
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot
On Thursday, April 1, 2021, 6:30:05 PM CDT, J_B <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
that word document is laughable.
On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 2:10 PM NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Subject: Fw: St. Peter's United Methodist Church
Hello City Council,
Lord willing, i will be on the front sidewalk of St. Peter's this
Sunday morning at around ten-thirty o'clock to observe, and then i
will attempt to enter at approximately five minutes to eleven o'clock
to "worship Almighty God according to the dictates of my own
conscience".
i am a Member in Good Standing of the United Methodist Church under
the laws and Constitution of the State of New Jersey and the Bill of
Rights in Amendment to this Constitution for the united States of
America and there is no lawful order existing preventing me from
doing so. This is a civil matter and St. Peter's has always
possessed the Right to pursue a Civil Remedy at the Superior Court if
they wished to sue for an Injunction to see if any lawful authority
exists to ban me is justified. No such Suit has ever been filed.
i will be wearing my lawful and legal striped-prison-uniform in a
peaceable manner and will be unarmed and not a threat to the peace
and safety of my fellow worshippers or to the Public.
The Council represents the People, and its powers and authority are
designed to be a counterweight to any oppressive Executive and
Judicial overreach.
i repeat my recent statement that if i am prevented from entering by
Force of Arms of one or more municipal officers that are sworn and
subscribed "to support the aforementioned Constitutions under the
authority of the people", then i expect the City Council to fire
Chief John Prettyman and the City Solicitor Dottie McCrosson for
cause by Resolution since Prettyman and McCrosson are also now
lawfully "sworn-and-subscribed" to "support" the laws and
Constitution of the State of New Jersey and the Bill of Rights in
Amendment to this Constitution for the united States of America.
This will be one more Crime to add to the long list of Crimes
committed against four members of the Dice family thus far by public
servants and employees for the past seven years, while
"supposedly-sworn-and-subscribed" members of the New Jersey BAR
attorneys-at-law and "supposedly-sworn-and-subscribed" New Jersey BAR
judges permit an unabated scheme to continue of protecting multiple
public servants and employees of the City of Ocean City Municipal
Corporation, granting those public servants and employees the
privilege of abusing their powers and authority to Govern and the
privilege to commit crimes against peaceful members of society, with
few apparent repercussions to date in a successful effort to benefit
both their business cronies and a plethora of highly-paid fellow
public servants and employees which are paid with city tax revenues.
best regards,
nelson
a foreign sovereign on the land circa 1719 and descendant of at least
three documented members that served in the American Revolutionary
Army in the struggle against Tyranny.
From: Melissa Decker <mdecker@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 4:43 PM
To: nelsondice@xxxxxxxx <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: St. Peter's United Methodist Church
Good afternoon:
Attached please find correspondence from Mr. Flower.
Regards,
Melissa
Assistant to Willis F. Flower, Esquire
Ford, Flower, Hasbrouck & Loefflad
Central Square, Suite 42A
Box 405
Linwood, NJ 08221
609-653-1500
Fax: 609-653-8887
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