My current view is a believer doesn't need to swear to the truth of his
statements in order for others to believe him
Oaths after Christ may be for liars.
My understanding was that many early Christians who refused to take swear
allegiance to Caesar when demanded would be executed.
Can one have allegiance to God and to the State?
Maybe temporary allegiance, under God.
Right now, I have made a promise to support the work of Christ via the United
Methodist Church.
Our Book of Discipline allows a swearing or affirmation before a magistrate ina
cause of truth.
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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: Fwd: St. Peter's United
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God himself. Took an oath when he cut the calf in half and walked between it
with Abraham.
On Apr 4, 2021, 4:10 AM -0600, Justin Ross <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, wrote:
I'm not a Bible scholar either, but I just want to put this out there because I
have often heard that Christians are not supposed to swear oaths, yet if you
take the phrase "swear not at all" to mean what it sounds like, it creates
contradictions with the rest of the Bible. In Deuteronomy 6 & 10, God says to
swear oaths in His name. If you read Zechariah 5:3-4, you can tell that the
sin of "swearing" is talking about falsely, not all swearing. If Jesus is the
son of God, it doesn't make sense for him nullify what his Father said,
especially when he's talking to Pharisees who swear by other objects to avoid
the obligation to tell the truth. He is saying let your yes always mean yes
and your no always mean no, not that you can't take an oath. It should be
"swear not at all falsely" or the like.
On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 2:44:03 PM PDT, Paul M
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Not being a biblical scholar, I can not quote the Chapter or verse that says
No Not give an oath to any King, Prince or potentate - so swearing on a Bible
is a violation of principal
On Saturday, April 3, 2021, 5:03:04 AM CDT, Jb <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Fallacy churches are not to have branches like government. Non biblical. Church
isn’t a building either
On Apr 2, 2021, at 10:51 PM, Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dice
If the church has three branches. I wonder if presenting to the committee your
free as God is your law and authority to answer for and are they gong to
require you to disobey God.
On Apr 2, 2021, 1:27 PM -0600, J_B <tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>, wrote:
and the term SUE didnt cross your mind? hope you had witnesses and they can do
an affidavit along with if you filmed it and cited their names and or got them
to say their names on camera.
On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 11:21 AM NELSON DICE
<nelsondice@xxxxxxxx<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I do wear a Halloween costume to services though. Fyi.
As free speech, since my clergy in my area are acting like common criminals in
Fraud and Deceit and when I attempted to address within the rules of The
Methodist byLaws, the BOOK OF DISCIPLINE, I was accused and arrested 2 times
without due process.
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It is a free country for some.
Truth is what sets ppl free.
Yes, publish anywhere u wish.
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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: Fwd: St. Peter's United
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What have we come to when a church has lawyers threatening its parishioners
with trespass
if they come to the church to celebrate Easter?
Those were my thoughts.
Thank you for your time.
In Liberty,
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot
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that word document is laughable.
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Subject: Fw: St. Peter's United Methodist Church
Hello City Council,
Lord willing, i will be on the front sidewalk of St. Peter's this Sunday
morning at around ten-thirty o'clock to observe, and then i will attempt to
enter at approximately five minutes to eleven o'clock to "worship Almighty God
according to the dictates of my own conscience".
i am a Member in Good Standing of the United Methodist Church under the laws
and Constitution of the State of New Jersey and the Bill of Rights in Amendment
to this Constitution for the united States of America and there is no lawful
order existing preventing me from doing so. This is a civil matter and St.
Peter's has always possessed the Right to pursue a Civil Remedy at the Superior
Court if they wished to sue for an Injunction to see if any lawful authority
exists to ban me is justified. No such Suit has ever been filed.
i will be wearing my lawful and legal striped-prison-uniform in a peaceable
manner and will be unarmed and not a threat to the peace and safety of my
fellow worshippers or to the Public.
The Council represents the People, and its powers and authority are designed to
be a counterweight to any oppressive Executive and Judicial overreach.
i repeat my recent statement that if i am prevented from entering by Force of
Arms of one or more municipal officers that are sworn and subscribed "to
support the aforementioned Constitutions under the authority of the people",
then i expect the City Council to fire Chief John Prettyman and the City
Solicitor Dottie McCrosson for cause by Resolution since Prettyman and
McCrosson are also now lawfully "sworn-and-subscribed" to "support" the laws
and Constitution of the State of New Jersey and the Bill of Rights in Amendment
to this Constitution for the united States of America.
This will be one more Crime to add to the long list of Crimes committed against
four members of the Dice family thus far by public servants and employees for
the past seven years, while "supposedly-sworn-and-subscribed" members of the
New Jersey BAR attorneys-at-law and "supposedly-sworn-and-subscribed" New
Jersey BAR judges permit an unabated scheme to continue of protecting multiple
public servants and employees of the City of Ocean City Municipal Corporation,
granting those public servants and employees the privilege of abusing their
powers and authority to Govern and the privilege to commit crimes against
peaceful members of society, with few apparent repercussions to date in a
successful effort to benefit both their business cronies and a plethora of
highly-paid fellow public servants and employees which are paid with city tax
revenues.
best regards,
nelson
a foreign sovereign on the land circa 1719 and descendant of at least three
documented members that served in the American Revolutionary Army in the
struggle against Tyranny.
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Subject: St. Peter's United Methodist Church
Good afternoon:
Attached please find correspondence from Mr. Flower.
Regards,
Melissa
Assistant to Willis F. Flower, Esquire
Ford, Flower, Hasbrouck & Loefflad
Central Square, Suite 42A
Box 405
Linwood, NJ 08221
609-653-1500
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