[administrating-your-public-servants] Re: FW: Re: is this the authority for gold-fringe??

From: NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
To: "administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2021 23:20:07 +0000

Now this, is an answer d'art.

Thank u........will save and pass along
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From: administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of J_B
<tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 6:55 PM
To: administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: FW: Re: is this the
authority for gold-fringe??

Nelson, well then..people have tried to remove it.. Hardly going to happen.
They know why its there.

Some of the following you folks know.. some dont. Meant to clarify and or tell
folks who dont understand the flag of BS

The flag with the gold or yellow fringe has no constitution, no laws, and no
rules of any court, and is not recognized by any nation on this earth, and is
foreign to you and the United States of America. Those of us who believe that
the Yellow Fringed Flag is the ‘Law of Admiralty’ Flag will know all about this.

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Let’s keep this simple. Here is what the addition of yellow fringe on the
Amercian Flag means.

FLAG WITH YELLOW FRINGE = MILITARY (Army regs.) = FED ERAL GOVERNMENT

FLAG WITHOUT YELLOW FRINGE = UNION OF SOVEREIGN STATES = WE THE PEOPLE

POWER CURVE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION (Flag no yellow fringe) AND SPECIFICALLY

#1 – WE THE PEOPLE
#2 – THE INDIVIDUAL STATES
#3 – FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

Reverse #1 and #3 when the yellow fringe is added to the American Flag.

The Yellow Fringed American Flag is NOT the CONSTITUTIONAL FLAG of this
REPUBLIC. Anyone who says allegiance to it is a violation of their oath of
office and the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

Records indicate that fringe was first used on the flag as early as 1835. It
was not until 1895 that it was officially added to the national flag for all
regiments of the Army. For civilian use, fringe is not required as an integral
part of the flag, nor can its use be said to constitute an unauthorized
addition to the design prescribed by statute. It is considered that fringe is
used as an honorable enrichment only. (Military tradition)

The courts have deemed without merit and frivolous, lawsuits that contend that
the gold fringe adorning the flag conferred Admiralty/Maritime jurisdiction.

This is our last chance to do it right and nullify the 1871 contract that
employed the U.S. Corporation to provide 19 governmental services to the
people. This is our right under Article 1 of the Bill of rights. This also
nullifies General Order 100 of 1863.
The flags displayed in State courts and courts of the United States have gold
or yellow fringes. That is your WARNING that you are entering into a foreign
enclave, the same as if you are stepping into a foreign embassy and you will be
under the jurisdiction of that flag. The flag with the gold or yellow fringe
has no constitution, no laws, and no rules of court, and is not recognized by
any nation on the earth, and is foreign to you and the United States of
America. more information

MILITARY FLAG WITH THE GOLD FRINGE

Martial Law Flag "Pursuant to 4 U.S.C. chapter 1, §§1, 2, & 3; Executive Order
10834, August 21, 1959; 24 F.R.6865; a military flag is a flag that resembles
the regular flag of the United States, except that it has a YELLOW FRINGE
border on three sides. The President of the United States designates this
deviation from the regular flag, by executive order, and in his capacity as
Commander-in-Chief of the military. The placing of a fringe on the national
flag, the dimensions of the flag, and the arrangement of the stars in the union
are matters of detail not controlled by statute, but are within the discretion
of the President as Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy." 34 Ops. Atty.
Gen. 83.

President, Dwight David Eisenhower, by Executive Order No.10834, signed on
August 21, 1959, and printed in the Federal Register at 24 F.R. 6865, pursuant
to law, stated that: "A military flag is a flag that resembles the regular flag
of the United States, except that it has a yellow fringe border on three sides."

THE LAW OF THE FLAG

The Law of the Flag, an International Law, which is recognized by every nation
of the planet, is defined as:

"... a rule to the effect that a vessel is a part of the territory of the
nation whose flag she flies. The term is used to designate the RIGHTS under
which a shipowner, who sends his vessel into a foreign port, gives notice by
his flag to all who enter into contracts with the shipmaster that he intends
the Law of that Flag to regulate those contracts, and that they must either
submit to its operation or not contract with him or his agent at all." Ref.:
Ruhstrat v. People, 57 N.E. 41

By the doctrine of "four cornerings," the flag establishes the law of the
country that it represents. For example, the embassies of foreign countries, in
Washington D.C., are "four-cornered" by walls or fencing, creating an
"enclave." Within the boundaries of the "enclave" of the foreign embassy, the
flag of that foreign country establishes the jurisdiction and law of that
foreign country, which will be enforced by the Law of the Flag and
international treaty. If you enter an embassy, you will be subject to the laws
of that country, just as if you board a ship flying a foreign flag, you will be
subject to the laws of that flag, enforceable by the "master of the ship,"
(Captain), by the law of the flag.

When you enter a courtroom displaying a gold or yellow fringed flag, you have
just entered into a foreign country, and you better have your passport with
you, because you may not be coming back to the land of the free for a long
time. The judge sitting under a gold or yellow fringe flag becomes the
"captain" or "master" of that ship or enclave and he has absolute power to make
the rules as he goes. The gold or yellow fringe flag is your warning that you
are leaving your Constitutionally secured RIGHTS on the floor outside the door
to that courtroom.

This is exactly why so many judges are appointed, and not elected by the
people. The Federal judges are appointed by the President, the national
military commander in chief. The State judges are appointed by the Governors,
the state military commanders. The judges are appointed because the courts are
military courts and civilians do not "elect" military officers.

Under martial law, you are presumed guilty until proven innocent.

The gold-fringed flag only stands inside military courts that sit in summary
court-martial proceedings against civilians and such courts are governed in
part by local rules, but more especially by "The Manual of Courts-Martial",
U.S., 1994 Ed., at Art. 99, (c)(1)(b), pg. IV-34, PIN 030567-0000, U.S.
Government Printing Office, Wash. D.C. The details of the crimes that civilians
can commit, which are classed as 'Acts of War,' cover 125 pages in the Manual
of Courts-Martial.

Under Article IV, section 3, of the Constitution for the united States of
America, no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any
other State. So -- Why have the judges of the State and Federal courts been
allowed to erect foreign enclaves within our public courthouses under a foreign
flag with the yellow fringe upon the soil of your state?

We just thought you would like to know so that the next time you see this
yellow fringed flag you will know what you are looking at and what it really
means. If you are in Spain and you see the National Flag of Spain, you would
know that you are under the jurisdiction of Spain; and their laws govern you at
this time. You are officially NOTICED when you see their flag. This is an
admiralty law that says that all who see this flag understand they are governed
by the laws of the country that this flag represents. You SHOULD understand
that the gold or yellow fringed flag signifies the same thing. It is a notice
to you that you are under the rules and regulations of the military force that
is flying that flag.

"It is an elementary rule of pleading, that a plea to the jurisdiction is a
tacit (silent) admission that the court has a right to judge the case and is a
waiver to all exception to the jurisdiction."(Girty v. Logan, 6 Bush KY, 8)

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 5:35 PM NELSON DICE
<nelsondice@xxxxxxxx<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:

J.B, I am revisiting the issue as I seek better hard evidence regarding the
gold-fringe and the military implications, if any, regarding the gold-fringe
flag my city council chambers I aim to  present and ask for a resolution
removing the gold-fringe flag or an official legal response from the city
solicitor..

Here is a small snippet on abe Lincoln and martial law I found interesting

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-113-declaring-martial-law-and-further-suspension-the-writ-habeas-corpus<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.presidency.ucsb.edu%2Fdocuments%2Fproclamation-113-declaring-martial-law-and-further-suspension-the-writ-habeas-corpus&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0a642579af6948c723ec08d980778ea7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682073299849317%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=6weDTZryK5crbMIyOT19p3YkQD2nu%2BcAH6qLsui4hIo%3D&reserved=0>

From: J_B<mailto:tf4624@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 5:31 PM
To:
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Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: FW: Re: is this the
authority for gold-fringe??

i think i did a thing on the flag issue?  did you folks miss it?

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 5:24 PM NELSON DICE
<nelsondice@xxxxxxxx<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:

https://www.legion.org/flag/questions-answers/91475/what-significance-gold-fringe-which-we-see-some-united-states-flags<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.legion.org%2Fflag%2Fquestions-answers%2F91475%2Fwhat-significance-gold-fringe-which-we-see-some-united-states-flags&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0a642579af6948c723ec08d980778ea7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682073299859307%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=nGrOIU%2FjqSWPSZc9nED954TzU5uHXZBIgtPNjlHHGo0%3D&reserved=0>

From: NELSON DICE<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 5:06 PM
To:
Administrating-Your-Public-Servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] FW: Re: is this the authority
for gold-fringe??

A Friend of the Family sent this to me

Below are some links, by looking at the history and flag museums', you may find
some information ....note I did not spend any time reading the links...I feel
the flag flown today represents the federal states belonging to the union.  If
I were to fly any flag, it would be the flag known as the Betsy Ross Flag...

https://jeffbridgman.com/html/articles005.htm<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjeffbridgman.com%2Fhtml%2Farticles005.htm&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0a642579af6948c723ec08d980778ea7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682073299869307%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=d0e9RmIf9jXILC43E%2FMxvl44dDdO41VCXiB0YvfeJHg%3D&reserved=0>

[https://jeffbridgman.com/images/13m-905-flag-72.jpg1zB]<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjeffbridgman.com%2Fhtml%2Farticles005.htm&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0a642579af6948c723ec08d980778ea7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682073299869307%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=d0e9RmIf9jXILC43E%2FMxvl44dDdO41VCXiB0YvfeJHg%3D&reserved=0>

Jeff Bridgman American Antiques, Antique American
Flags<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjeffbridgman.com%2Fhtml%2Farticles005.htm&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0a642579af6948c723ec08d980778ea7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682073299879300%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=udAcBv8uzP5klPAY5bNcf9bgcTF7prgRayqr1CEDtNk%3D&reserved=0>

HERE ARE SOME IMPORTANT FACTS. An Article For “Focus”, The Semi-Annual Journal
Of The Antiques Council, Winter 2006. by Jeff Bridgman, 2006 If you are looking
for a Colonial / Revolutionary period 13 star flag, in other words, one made
prior to the Treaty of Paris in 1783, or at the very least during the period
when we had 13 states, prior to the 1791 addition of Vermont, I have some very
...

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https://houseofflags.org/flag-history/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhouseofflags.org%2Fflag-history%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0a642579af6948c723ec08d980778ea7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682073299889292%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=iiluJrDZKUsZ1ZwvZcRb4zfQTZv9eYvTTvW438gPuX8%3D&reserved=0>

Flag History | House of
Flags<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhouseofflags.org%2Fflag-history%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0a642579af6948c723ec08d980778ea7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682073299889292%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=iiluJrDZKUsZ1ZwvZcRb4zfQTZv9eYvTTvW438gPuX8%3D&reserved=0>

The Kings Colors. When the Pilgrims came in the 1600 they brought with them the
Kings Colors. This flag had the cross of St. George prominently displayed in it
but it also had acquired a white X with a blue background from St. Andrew’s
Flag of Scotland.

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https://nationalflagfoundation.org/history/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnationalflagfoundation.org%2Fhistory%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0a642579af6948c723ec08d980778ea7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682073299899286%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=7OeclIR4wapKjsB6vvzRCSxZZuFGYiBywPbql6MIqlg%3D&reserved=0>

American Flag History & Evolution - The National Flag Foundation - The National
Flag Foundation - American Flag Etiquette &
History<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fnationalflagfoundation.org%2Fhistory%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0a642579af6948c723ec08d980778ea7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682073299909282%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2BnrwTVj1YKJlUx8WIF7Fxujb9njHc2pwwA1IV4HSlMQ%3D&reserved=0>

1812 was the year that Fort McHenry was bombarded and with its fall, rose a
significant piece of American literature and symbol of pride. A young lawyer by
the name of Francis Scott Key was on a nearby truce ship when he witnessed the
attack on McHenry.

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From: NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 12:57 PM
To: Friend of the Family
Subject: Fw: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: is this the authority
for gold-fringe??

Do you have any clue where to start on what is or was the flag of the United
States of America?

From:
administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

<administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:administrating-your-public-servants-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
on behalf of Charley Dan <charleydan@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:charleydan@xxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 12:34 PM
To:
administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

<administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: is this the authority for
gold-fringe??

Again the E order for the flag of the United States. What about the flag for
our country the United States of America?

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 10:15 AM NELSON DICE
<nelsondice@xxxxxxxx<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>> wrote:

PART III—GENERAL PROVISIONS

Sec. 31. The flag prescribed by Executive Order No. 10798 of January 3, 1959,
shall be the official flag of the United States until July 4, 1960, and on that
date the flag prescribed by Part I of this order shall become the official flag
of the United States; but this section shall neither derogate from section 24
or section 25 of this order nor preclude the procurement, for executive
agencies, of flags provided for by or pursuant to this order at any time after
the date of this order.

Sec. 32. As used in this order, the term "executive agencies" means the
executive departments and independent establishments in the executive branch of
the Government, including wholly-owned Government corporations.

From: NELSON DICE<mailto:nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 12:12 PM
To:
Administrating-Your-Public-Servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [administrating-your-public-servants] is this the authority for
gold-fringe??

https://law.justia.com/codes/us/2018/title-4/chapter-1/sec-1/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flaw.justia.com%2Fcodes%2Fus%2F2018%2Ftitle-4%2Fchapter-1%2Fsec-1%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0a642579af6948c723ec08d980778ea7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637682073299919273%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=p3UfMCXW0LLQx2oc1TLbIKstCSa9CEQ5E2DERbgYkTY%3D&reserved=0>

EX. ORD. NO. 10834. PROPORTIONS AND SIZES OF FLAGS AND POSITION OF STARS

PART II—REGULATIONS GOVERNING EXECUTIVE AGENCIES

Sec. 24. (a) The Secretary of Defense in respect of procurement for the
Department of Defense (including military colors) and the Administrator of
General Services in respect of procurement for executive agencies other than
the Department of Defense may, for cause which the Secretary or the
Administrator, as the case may be, deems sufficient, make necessary minor
adjustments in one or more of the dimensions or proportionate dimensions
prescribed by this order, or authorize proportions or sizes other than those
prescribed by section 3 or section 21 of this order.

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- [administrating-your-public-servants] Re: is this the authority for gold-fringe??
  - From: Charley Dan
- [administrating-your-public-servants] FW: Re: is this the authority for gold-fringe??
  - From: NELSON DICE
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