[administrating-your-public-servants] Re: Bouviers. Privilege

From: "Don Mashak" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender "donmashak" for DMARC)
To: "administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <administrating-your-public-servants@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 2 May 2021 22:51:57 +0000 (UTC)

Thanx Nelson Dice, thats some more good stuff...

I think this historical tidbit will give some more context.
Under the forced Metaphysics of the "Divine Right of Kings" that America
revolted fromSUBJECTS HAD NO RIGHTS, ONLY PERMISSIONS AND PRIVILEGES GRANTED BY
THE KING or his designates.
And the King/Queen could revoke permissions and privileges on a whim.
There were no property rights, the King/Queen owned all land.... and could
revoke any subjects permission/privilegeto be on his land at any time...

The King/Queen/Church even established truth through punishments (Public
stocks, Burning at stake, etc.) or revoking permissions and privileges. (Think
Galileo almost burnt at the stake for daring to say the earth is NOT the center
of the universe. Only Galileo's popularity and respect let him off with mere
house arrest for the rest of his life)
Remember, under the forced Metaphysics of "Divine Right of Kings", the
King/Queenwere deemed to be Gods or representatives of God here on earth.Being
Divinely inspired, the King/Queen could never do anything NOT in the best
interest of the community.And therefore, no earthly being could ever challenge
the decisions/authority of the King queen.
It was only the Natural Law and its Natural Rights of the Enlightenment
(1650-1800 AD)that asserted the inherent, unalienable Natural Rights of the
Individual.(The "Men of Letters" of the ENLIGHTENMENT aka "Age of Reason" were
quick topoint out they were merely reducing to writing that which always
was.Natural Rights are as permanent as the freezing point of pure water at sea
level.
Life, Self-Ownership, Self-Determination and Self-Defense are among every
individuals Natural Rights.And so are Private Property Rights and the Right of
the Individual to ESTABLISH TRUTH for themselvesusing their own observations
and reasoning.

Locke's 2 Treatises of Civil Government (1689) is probably the best summary of
Natural Law, Natural Rights and Consent of the Governed.
A modern translation exists which I find pretty true to the original. The
originalthe version has some Olde English in it making it harder to read.

Those were my thoughts.

Thank you for your time.

In Liberty,
Don Mashak
The Cynical Patriot

    On Sunday, May 2, 2021, 8:20:08 AM CDT, NELSON DICE <nelsondice@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:



PRIVILEGE, rights. This word, taken its active sense, is a particular law, or a
particular disposition of the law, which grants certain special prerogatives to
some persons, contrary to common right. In its passive sense, it is the same
prerogative granted by the same particular law.

2. Examples of privilege may be found in all systems of law; members of
congress and of the several legislatures, during a certain time, parties and
witnesses while attending court; and coming to and returning from the same;
electors, while going to the election, remaining on the ground, or returning
from the same, are all privileged from arrest, except for treason, felony or
breach of the peace.

3. Privileges from arrest for civil cases are either general and absolute, or
limited and qualified as to time or place.

4. - 1. In the first class may be mentioned ambassadors, and their servants,
when the debt or duty has been contracted by the latter since they entered into
the service of such ambassador; insolvent debtors duly discharged under the
insolvent laws; in some places, as in Pennsylvania, women for any debt by them
contracted; and in general, executors and administrators, when sued in their
representative character, though they have been held to bail. 2 Binn. 440.

5. - 2. In the latter class may be placed, 1st. Members of congress this
privilege is strictly personal, and is not only his own, or that of his
constituent, but also that of the house of which he is a member, which every
man is bound to know, and must take notice of. Jeff. Man. 3; 2 Wils. R. 151;
Com. Dig. Parliament, D. 17. The time during which the privilege extends
includes all the period of the session of congress, and a reasonable time for
going to, and returning from the seat of government. Jeff. Man. 3; Story,
Const. 856 to 862; 1 Kent, Com. 221; 1 Dall. R. 296. The same privilege is
extended to the members of the different state legislatures.

6. - 2d. Electors under the constitution and laws of the United States, or of
any state, are protected from arrest for any civil cause, or for any crime
except treason, felony, or a breach of the peace, eundo, morando, et redeundo,
that is, going to, staying at, or returning from the election.

7. - 3d. Militia men, while engaged in the performance of military duty, under
the laws, and eundo, morando et redeundo.

8. - 4th. All persons who, either necessarily or of right are attending any
court or forum of justice, whether as judge, juror, party interested or
witness, and eundo, morando et redeundo. See 6 Mass. R, 245; 4 Dall. R. 329,
487; 2 John. R. 294; 1 South. R. 366; 11 Mass. R. 11; 3 Cowen, R. 381; 1 Pet.
C. C. R. 41.

9. Ambassadors are wholly exempt from arrest for civil or criminal cases. Vide
Ambassador. See, generally, Bac. Ab. h. t.; 2 Rolle's Ab. 272; 2 Lilly's Reg.
369; Brownl. 15; 13 Mass. R. 288; 1 Binn. R. 77; 1 H. Bl. 686; Bouv. Inst.
Index, h. t.

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